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==General Information==
==General Information==
First of the nine responsories for Matins of [[Maundy Thursday]].
A mode viii {{CC|responsories|responsory}} that occurs twice in the [[Liber usualis]] with the verse "Vigilate…": as the first of the nine {{CC|Tenebrae responsories|responsories for Matins}} of [[Maundy Thursday]], and as the second station of the {{CC|Palm Sunday}} procession. The LU version however omits "fiat voluntas tea."
 
There are discrepancies between the Latin text below and the standard text of the responsory, and between the Latin text below and the translations given below. Capital letters have been used to identify the various portions of the text and illustrate the discrepancies.  


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*[[In monte Oliveti (Anonymous)|Anonymous]] SSA
*Anonymous
**[[In monte Oliveti (Anonymous)|16c setting]] SSA (no verse)
*[[In monte Oliveti (Anton Bruckner)|Anton Bruckner]] SATB
*[[In monte Oliveti (Anton Bruckner)|Anton Bruckner]] SATB
*[[In monte Oliveti (Giovanni Croce)|Giovanni Croce]] SATB
*[[In monte Oliveti (Giovanni Croce)|Giovanni Croce]] SATB (no verse)
*Mariano Garau
*Mariano Garau (both w/o "fiat voluntas tua")
**[[In monte Oliveti (Mariano Garau)|I]] ATB
**[[In monte Oliveti (Mariano Garau)|I]] ATB
**[[In monte Oliveti II (Mariano Garau)|II]] SATB
**[[In monte Oliveti II (Mariano Garau)|II]] SATB
*[[In Monte Oliveti (José Mauricio Nunes Garcia)|José Mauricio Nunes Garcia]] SATB
*[[In monte Oliveti (José Maurício Nunes Garcia)|José Mauricio Nunes Garcia]] SATB
*[[9 Responsoria in Coena Domini (Johann Michael Haydn)|Michael Haydn]] SATB
*[[9 Responsoria in Coena Domini (Johann Michael Haydn)|Michael Haydn]] SATB
*[[In monte oliveti (Marco Antonio Ingegneri)|Marco Antonio Ingegneri]] (or, [[On the Mount of Olives (Marco Antonio Ingegneri)|in English]]) SATB
*[[In monte Oliveti (Marco Antonio Ingegneri)|Marco Antonio Ingegneri]] (or, [[On the Mount of Olives (Marco Antonio Ingegneri)|in English]]) SATB
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*[[In monte Oliveti (Orlando di Lasso)|Orlando di Lasso]] SAATBB
*[[In monte Oliveti (Orlando di Lasso)|Orlando di Lasso]] SAATBB (no verse; "oravi" for "oravit")
*[[In monte Oliveti (Giovanni Battista Martini)|Giovanni Battista Martini]] TTB
*[[In monte Oliveti (Giovanni Battista Martini)|Giovanni Battista Martini]] TTB (also arr. SATB)
*[[In monte Oliveti (Juozas Naujalis)|Juozas Naujalis]] SATB
*[[In monte Oliveti (Juozas Naujalis)|Juozas Naujalis]] SATB (w/o "fiat voluntas tua")
*[[In monte Oliveti (Antonio Maria Pacchioni)|Antonio Maria Pacchioni]] SATB
*[[In monte Oliveti (Antonio Maria Pacchioni)|Antonio Maria Pacchioni]] SATB
*[[In monte oliveti (Leonhard Paminger)|Leonhard Paminger]] SATTB
*[[In monte Oliveti (Giovanni Pierluigi da Palestrina)|Giovanni Pierluigi da Palestrina]] SATB
*[[In Monte Oliveti (Jeffrey Quick)|Jeffrey Quick]] SATB
*[[In monte Oliveti (Leonhard Paminger)|Leonhard Paminger]] SATTB (2nda pars "Spiritus…", no verse)
*[[In monte Oliveti - Antiphon (Franz Schubert)|Franz Schubert]] SATB
*[[In Monte Oliveti (Jeffrey Quick)|Jeffrey Quick]] SATB (w/o "fiat voluntas tua")
*[[In monte Oliveti (Mikolaj Zielenski)|Mikolaj Zielenski]] SATBB
*[[In monte Oliveti, D696:2 (Franz Schubert)|Franz Schubert]] SATB (no verse)
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*[[In monte Oliveti (Mikolaj Zielenski)|Mikolaj Zielenski]] SATBB (no verse)
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==Text and translations==
==Text and translations==
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(A) In monte Oliveti oravit ad patrem:
{{Text|Latin|
(A) In monte Oliveti ad patrem oravit:
Pater si fieri potest transeat a me calix iste.
Pater si fieri potest transeat a me calix iste.
Spiritus quidem promptus est caro autem infirma.
Spiritus quidem promptus est caro autem infirma.
(B) Fiat voluntas tua.
(B) Fiat voluntas tua.
(C) Verumtamen non sicut ego volo, sed sicut tu vis.
(C) Verumtamen non sicut ego volo, sed sicut tu vis.
(B) Fiat voluntas tua.}}
(B) Fiat voluntas tua.
 
{{Translation|French|
(A) Au mont des Oliviers, il pria en s´adressant á son Père:
"Père, si cela est possible, faites que ce calice s´éloigne de moi;
car si l´esprit est prompt la chair est faible;
(B) Que Votre volonté soit faite."}}


{{Translation|Italian|
(A) In monte Oliveti oravi ad Patrem}}
(A) Sul monte degli ulivi Gesú pregava il Padre:
Padre, se è possibile, allontana da me questo calice.
È vero che lo spirito è forte, ma la carne è debole.
(D) Verso: State desti e pregate per non entrare in tentazione.}}
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{{Translation|English|
{{mdl|3}}{{Translation|English|
(A) On the Mount of Olives he prayed to his Father:
(A) On the Mount of Olives he prayed to his Father:
"Father, if it be possible, let this cup pass from me.
"Father, if it be possible, let this cup pass from me.
The spirit indeed is willing, but the flesh is weak.
The spirit indeed is willing, but the flesh is weak.
(B) Let your will be done.
(B) Let your will be done.
(C) Nevertheless, not as I will, but as you will,
(C) Nevertheless, not as I will, but as you will,
(B) Let your will be done."
(B) Let your will be done."


{{Translator|Paul Pascal}}, Professor Emeritus of Classics, University of Washington''}}
(A) On the Mount of Olives I prayed to the Father:


{{Translation|German|
{{Translator|Paul Pascal}}}}
(A) Responsorium: Auf dem Ölberg betete Jesus zum Vater:
Vater, wenn es möglich ist, lass diesen Kelch an mir vorübergehen.
Der Geist ist zwar willig, doch das Fleisch ist schwach.
(C) Aber nicht wie ich will, sondern dein Wille geschehe.
(D) Versus: Seid wachsam und betet, damit ihr nicht in Versuchung geratet.}}


{{Translation|Dutch|
{{mdl|3}}{{Translation|Dutch|
A) Op de Olijfberg bad Hij tot de Vader
A) Op de Olijfberg bad Hij tot de Vader
Mijn Vader, indien het mogelijk is,
Mijn Vader, indien het mogelijk is,
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De geest is wel gewillig
De geest is wel gewillig
Maar het vlees is zwak
Maar het vlees is zwak
B) Uw wil geschiede
B) Uw wil geschiede
C) Waakt en bidt, dat gij niet in bekoring komt.
C) Waakt en bidt, dat gij niet in bekoring komt.
B) Uw wil geschiede}}
B) Uw wil geschiede}}
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{{Translation|French|
(A) Au mont des Oliviers, il pria en s´adressant à son Père:
"Père, si cela est possible, faites que ce calice s´éloigne de moi;
car si l´esprit est prompt la chair est faible;
(B) Que Votre volonté soit faite."
 
(A) Au mont des Oliviers je priai en m'adressant à mon Père }}
 
==As given in Lasso, Palestrina, Nunes, Croce, Bruckner, Schubert…==
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(A) In monte Oliveti ad patrem oravit:
Pater si fieri potest transeat a me calix iste.
Spiritus quidem promptus est caro autem infirma.
[Fiat voluntas tua.]
 
Vigilate, et orate, ut non intretis in tentationem.
:''Spiritus…''
}}
 
{{mdl|3}}{{Translation|Italian|
(A) Sul monte degli ulivi Gesú pregava il Padre:
Padre, se è possibile, allontana da me questo calice.
È vero che lo spirito è forte, ma la carne è debole.
 
(D) Verso: State desti e pregate per non entrare in tentazione.}}
 
{{mdl|3}}{{Translation|German|
(A) Responsorium: Auf dem Ölberg betete Jesus zum Vater:
Vater, wenn es möglich ist, lass diesen Kelch an mir vorübergehen.
Der Geist ist zwar willig, doch das Fleisch ist schwach.
[''Aber nicht wie ich will, sondern'' dein Wille geschehe.]
 
(D) Versus: Seid wachsam und betet, damit ihr nicht in Versuchung geratet.}}
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Revision as of 05:15, 9 April 2018

General Information

A mode viii responsory that occurs twice in the Liber usualis with the verse "Vigilate…": as the first of the nine responsories for Matins of Maundy Thursday, and as the second station of the Palm Sunday procession. The LU version however omits "fiat voluntas tea."

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Text and translations

Latin.png Latin text

(A) In monte Oliveti oravit ad patrem:
Pater si fieri potest transeat a me calix iste.
Spiritus quidem promptus est caro autem infirma.

(B) Fiat voluntas tua.
(C) Verumtamen non sicut ego volo, sed sicut tu vis.
(B) Fiat voluntas tua.

(A) In monte Oliveti oravi ad Patrem

English.png English translation

(A) On the Mount of Olives he prayed to his Father:
"Father, if it be possible, let this cup pass from me.
The spirit indeed is willing, but the flesh is weak.

(B) Let your will be done.
(C) Nevertheless, not as I will, but as you will,
(B) Let your will be done."

(A) On the Mount of Olives I prayed to the Father:

Translation by Paul Pascal

Dutch.png Dutch translation

A) Op de Olijfberg bad Hij tot de Vader
Mijn Vader, indien het mogelijk is,
laat deze kelk aan mij voorbij gaan.
De geest is wel gewillig
Maar het vlees is zwak

B) Uw wil geschiede
C) Waakt en bidt, dat gij niet in bekoring komt.
B) Uw wil geschiede

French.png French translation

(A) Au mont des Oliviers, il pria en s´adressant à son Père:
"Père, si cela est possible, faites que ce calice s´éloigne de moi;
car si l´esprit est prompt la chair est faible;
(B) Que Votre volonté soit faite."

(A) Au mont des Oliviers je priai en m'adressant à mon Père

As given in Lasso, Palestrina, Nunes, Croce, Bruckner, Schubert…

Latin.png Latin text

(A) In monte Oliveti ad patrem oravit:
Pater si fieri potest transeat a me calix iste.
Spiritus quidem promptus est caro autem infirma.
[Fiat voluntas tua.]

Vigilate, et orate, ut non intretis in tentationem.
Spiritus…
 

Italian.png Italian translation

(A) Sul monte degli ulivi Gesú pregava il Padre:
Padre, se è possibile, allontana da me questo calice.
È vero che lo spirito è forte, ma la carne è debole.

(D) Verso: State desti e pregate per non entrare in tentazione.

German.png German translation

(A) Responsorium: Auf dem Ölberg betete Jesus zum Vater:
Vater, wenn es möglich ist, lass diesen Kelch an mir vorübergehen.
Der Geist ist zwar willig, doch das Fleisch ist schwach.
[Aber nicht wie ich will, sondern dein Wille geschehe.]

(D) Versus: Seid wachsam und betet, damit ihr nicht in Versuchung geratet.

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