Talk:Hotinet Barra

From ChoralWiki
Jump to navigation Jump to search

Sources given in List of Works

In the recent Request for Cleanup, the question was asked, "What do abbreviations mean in 'List of Choral Works'. In each case, the abbreviations were indications of the extant source for the work it followed. 'CMac' is an abbreviation for 'I-CMac', for example, which is an internationally-used abbreviation for the Archivio Capitolare di Casale Monferrato (ac) in Casale Monferrato (CM), Italy (I). 'Bc Q19', short for 'I-Bc Q19', indicates a manuscript with the Shelfmark 'Q19' at the Museo Internazionale e Biblioteca della Musica di Bologna (c) in Bologna (B), Italy (I), commonly known as the Rusconi Codex. 'I-Fl acquisti e doni 666' is the scholarly name of the Medici Codex, which can be found in the Biblioteca Medicea-Laurenziana (l) in Florence (F), Italy (I). As for the S. vii and S. xii, they refer to the modern editions of Attaingnant's motet series published by Smijers & Merritt in 1934. S. vii = Smijers/Merritt vol. 7, for example. I removed those since I think references to modern editions belong on the publication pages. GeoffG (talk) 10:50, 4 January 2022 (UTC)

Thank you very much! I appreciate very much your careful scholarship; and I apologize for my ignorance. CPDL has many different users, some of which (like me) don't know the conventions. Conventions and abbreviations have a way of being different in different fields and at different times. I would ask you to consider users in the future, when people who understand these abbreviations may not be around. I now see you have added references back, thank you. — Barry Johnston (talk) 18:49, 4 January 2022 (UTC)
You are very welcome! But, to be clear, I was not the one who added the source abbreviations to this page in the first place. I myself had to do a little digging to figure out what a few of them referred to. I totally agree with you that RISM numbers and library sigla are not very accessible to the average non-scholarly user, to say nothing of users in the future. What I have done on this page by converting these references to a table is my attempt to make things clearer, but I think we might need to establish a general convention for naming publication pages for manuscripts. If we don't, knowledgeable editors will continue to use the international standard abbreviations set by the Census-Catalogue of Manuscripts of Manuscript Sources of Polyphonic Music, 1400–1550 (I-FL, I-BC, I-CMac, etc.). GeoffG (talk) 01:18, 5 January 2022 (UTC)