Talk:Lord Nelson Mass (Mass no. 11 in D minor) (Joseph Haydn)

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Score error in Gloria CPDL #7902

In the score, edited by Mike Gibson, URL

http://www.cpdl.org/wiki/images/sheet/hayd-112.pdf

I found an error:

In bar number 98, a "tutti" is missing for all voices. Aspergillus 08:03, 1 March 2011 (CST)


Possible Score error in Credo CPDL #7903

In the score, edited by Mike Gibson, URL

http://www.cpdl.org/wiki/images/sheet/hayd-113.pdf

I see a problem with the Fermata and the following rest in bar 77 + 78 (all voices).

The notes now are

  1. a whole note with fermata, followed by
  2. a 3/4 rest and
  3. the quarter note for the melody ("de" in "descendit")

That says, that the rest has to be exactly 3/4.

In all other paper editions I found, the fermata is on a 3/4 note, imediately following the 1/4 note in the same bar (no rest), what makes one bar less and a difference in bar counting.

When singing, nearly nobody will make a rest of 3/4 at that point. Only taking new breath is nescessary. Therefore in bar 77 the sequence shoudt be

3/4 note with fermata
Optional, a breath mark
The quarter note to continue the melody (text: "de")

Aspergillus 08:45, 1 March 2011 (CST)

You are quite right. I performed this work some years ago under an eminent conductor in London who insisted on a dramatic silent pause before the last phrase. He convinced me that this was artistically effective and I incorporated it in my edition. I should have made it clear that this was editorial. Thank you for pointing it out.

Mike Gibson 09:35, 2 March 2011