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:'''Editor:''' [[User:Dick Wursten|Dick Wursten]] ''(added 2005-12-30)''.   '''Score information:''' A4, 4 pages, 62 kbytes   {{Copy|Personal}}
:'''Edition notes:''' diplomatic edition of original partbooks: original keys,note values and text (revised and with translation added). MIDI file corrected.
:'''Edition notes:''' diplomatic edition of original partbooks: original keys, note values and text (revised and with translation added). MIDI file corrected.


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==General Information==
==General Information==
'''Title:''' ''Vous perdez temps de me dire mal d'elle''<br>
'''Title:''' ''Vous perdez temps de me dire mal d'elle''<br>
'''Composer:''' [[Claudin de Sermisy]]; wrongly attributed to [[Thomas Crecquillon]]
{{Composer|Claudin de Sermisy|; wrongly attributed to [[Thomas Crecquillon]]}}
{{Lyricist|Clément Marot}}, Chanson XXXV, ''Oeuvres'', 1536


'''Number of voices:''' 4vv '''Voicing:''' [[:Category:SATB|SATB]]<br>
{{Voicing|4|SATB}}<br>
'''Genre:''' {{pcat|Secular| music}}, [[:Category:Chansons|Chanson]]<br>
'''Genre:''' {{pcat|Secular| music}}, [[:Category:Chansons|Chanson]]<br>
{{Language|French}}
{{Language|French}}  
'''Instruments:''' {{acap}}<br>
'''Instruments:''' {{acap}}<br>
'''Published:'''
'''Published:'''


'''Description:''' This [[chanson]] of [[Clément Marot]] was published first in 1536 and has inspired many composers. This edition is based on the publication in the ''Livre Septieme'' of 1644 (a century later!) by Dirk Jansz. Sweelinck, which is in its kernel a reprint of the ''Livre Septième de chansons à quatre parties'' (7th book of chansons for 4 voices) of [[Pierre Phalèse]], 1560, in which the compositions were anonymous. Later attributions are often false.
'''Description:''' This [[chanson]] by [[Clément Marot]] was published first in 1536 and has inspired many composers. This edition is based on the publication in the ''Livre Septième'' of 1644 (a century later!) by Dirk Jansz Sweelinck, which is in its kernel a reprint of the ''Livre Septième de chansons à quatre parties'' (7th book of chansons for 4 voices) by [[Pierre Phalèse]], 1560, in which the compositions were anonymous. Later attributions are often false.


'''External websites:''' http://dick.wursten.be
'''External websites:'''  
*http://dick.wursten.be


==Original text and translations==
==Original text and translations==
{{Text|French}}
{{Text|French}}
chanson XXXV ([[Clément Marot]], ''Oeuvres'', 1536 - modernized spelling)
''(modernized spelling)''
<poem>
Vous perdez temps de me dire mal d'elle,
Gens qui voulez divertir mon entente:
Plus la blâmez, plus je la trouve belle.
S'ébahist on, si tant je m'en contente?:
:La fleur de sa jeunesse
:A votre avis rien n'est ce?
:N'est ce rien que ses grâces?
:Cessez vos grands audaces,
Car mon Amour vaincra votre médire:
Tel en médict, qui pour soi la désire.
</poem>


:Vous perdez temps de me dire mal d'elle,
:Gens qui voulez divertir mon entente:
:Plus la blâmez, plus je la trouve belle.
:S'ébahist on, si tant je m'en contente?:
::La fleur de sa jeunesse
::A votre avis rien n'est ce?
::N'est ce rien que ses grâces?
::Cessez vos grands audaces,
:Car mon Amour vaincra votre médire:
:Tel en médict, qui pour soi la désire.


{{Translation|English}}
{{Translation|English}}
(translation for understanding only)
''by Dick Wursten, for understanding only''
''
<poem>
:You're wasting your time, talking so evil about her.  
You're wasting your time, talking so evil about her.  
:You people, who want to loosen my bond:
You people, who want to loosen my bond:
:The more you blame her, the more I like her.  
The more you blame her, the more I like her.  
:Are you surprised that I'm content with her ?
Are you surprised that I'm content with her ?
::The beauty of her youth,  
:The beauty of her youth,  
::Is that nothing ?
:Is that nothing ?
::And her gracefulness, does that not count ?
:And her gracefulness, does that not count ?
::Stop your impertinent brutalities,
:Stop your impertinent brutalities,
:For my Love will overcome all your evil talk :
For my Love will overcome all your evil talk :
:Evil you talk, because you desire her yourself.  
Evil you talk, because you desire her yourself.  
''
</poem>
tr. Dick Wursten


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[[Category:Chansons]]
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[[Category:Renaissance music]]
[[Category:Renaissance music]]

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Editor: Dick Wursten (added 2005-12-30).   Score information: A4, 4 pages, 62 kbytes   Copyright: Personal
Edition notes: diplomatic edition of original partbooks: original keys, note values and text (revised and with translation added). MIDI file corrected.
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Editor: Dick Wursten (added 2005-12-31).   Score information: A4, 4 pages, 83 kbytes   Copyright: Personal
Edition notes: practical edition based on the Livre Septième in modern keys and modernized text with translation. MIDI file corrected.

General Information

Title: Vous perdez temps de me dire mal d'elle
Composer: Claudin de Sermisy; wrongly attributed to Thomas Crecquillon
Lyricist: Clément Marot , Chanson XXXV, Oeuvres, 1536

Number of voices: 4vv   Voicing: SATB

Genre: Secular, Chanson

Language: French
Instruments: a cappella
Published:

Description: This chanson by Clément Marot was published first in 1536 and has inspired many composers. This edition is based on the publication in the Livre Septième of 1644 (a century later!) by Dirk Jansz Sweelinck, which is in its kernel a reprint of the Livre Septième de chansons à quatre parties (7th book of chansons for 4 voices) by Pierre Phalèse, 1560, in which the compositions were anonymous. Later attributions are often false.

External websites:

Original text and translations

French.png French text (modernized spelling)

Vous perdez temps de me dire mal d'elle,
Gens qui voulez divertir mon entente:
Plus la blâmez, plus je la trouve belle.
S'ébahist on, si tant je m'en contente?:
La fleur de sa jeunesse
A votre avis rien n'est ce?
N'est ce rien que ses grâces?
Cessez vos grands audaces,
Car mon Amour vaincra votre médire:
Tel en médict, qui pour soi la désire.


English.png English translation by Dick Wursten, for understanding only

You're wasting your time, talking so evil about her.
You people, who want to loosen my bond:
The more you blame her, the more I like her.
Are you surprised that I'm content with her ?
The beauty of her youth,
Is that nothing ?
And her gracefulness, does that not count ?
Stop your impertinent brutalities,
For my Love will overcome all your evil talk :
Evil you talk, because you desire her yourself.

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