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2024-02-29T01:15:59Z
<p>Vaarky: Welcome!</p>
<hr />
<div>== Welcome ==<br />
Welcome to CPDL!<br />
We hope you will contribute much and well.<br />
You will probably want to read the [[Help:Contents|help pages]].<br />
Again, welcome and have fun! [[User:Vaarky|Vaarky]] ([[User talk:Vaarky|talk]]) 01:15, 29 February 2024 (UTC)</div>
Vaarky
https://www.cpdl.org/wiki/index.php?title=Jingle_Bells_(James_Pierpont)&diff=1765524
Jingle Bells (James Pierpont)
2023-11-29T05:44:11Z
<p>Vaarky: mark Secco editions as broken links /* Arrangements */</p>
<hr />
<div>==Music files==<br />
{{#Legend:}}<br />
*{{PostedDate|2021-11-21}} {{CPDLno|66808}} [[Media:Jingle_Bells_adapted.pdf|{{pdf}}]] [[Media:Jingle_Bells_adapted.mid|{{mid}}]] [[Media:Jingle_Bells_adapted.mp3|{{mp3}}]] [[Media:Jingle_Bells_adapted.mxl|{{XML}}]]<br />
{{Editor|William Hale|2021-11-21}}{{ScoreInfo|A4|3|104}}{{Copy|Personal}}<br />
:{{EdNotes|This edition adapts Pierpont's own arrangement as given in the original edition to the tune in the standard modern form. Solo, SATB, piano.}}<br />
<br />
*{{PostedDate|2021-11-21}} {{CPDLno|66801}} [[Media:The_One_Horse_Open_Sleigh_(Jingle_Bells).pdf|{{pdf}}]] [[Media:The_One_Horse_Open_Sleigh_(Jingle_Bells).mid|{{mid}}]] [[Media:The_One_Horse_Open_Sleigh_(Jingle_Bells).mp3|{{mp3}}]] [[Media:The_One_Horse_Open_Sleigh_(Jingle_Bells).mxl|{{XML}}]]<br />
{{Editor|William Hale|2021-11-21}}{{ScoreInfo|A4|4|108}}{{Copy|Personal}}<br />
:{{EdNotes|Transcribed from the original edition (Boston: Oliver Ditson & Co., 1857). Solo, SATB, piano.}}<br />
<br />
*{{PostedDate|2009-12-04}} {{CPDLno|20578}} [[Media:Jingle_bells_v2_a4.pdf|{{pdf}}]] [[Media:Jingle_Bells_v2_a4.mid|{{mid}}]]<br />
{{Editor|David R. King|2009-12-04}}{{ScoreInfo|A4|2|30}}{{Copy|CPDL}}<br />
:{{EdNotes|Straightforward {{acap}} version for SATB.}}<br />
<br />
*{{PostedDate|2006-07-31}} {{CPDLno|12164}} {{IMSLPWork|The One Horse Open Sleigh (Pierpont, James)}} PDF, MIDI and Sibelius 2 files available.<br />
{{Editor|Sven Dierke|2006-07-31}}{{ScoreInfo|A4|3|45}}{{Copy|Personal}}<br />
:{{EdNotes|after first edition, Boston: Ditson, c. 1859}}<br />
<br />
*{{PostedDate|2004-12-12}} {{CPDLno|8722}} [{{website|cipoo_v}} {{net}}] PDF, MIDI and Noteworthy Composer files available.<br />
{{Editor|Marco Gallo|2004-12-12}}{{ScoreInfo|A4|2|36}}{{Copy|Personal}}<br />
:{{EdNotes|}}<br />
<!--<br />
*{{PostedDate|2004-10-05}} {{CPDLno|7991}} {{Broken}}[{{website|olivieri}} {{net}}] PDF, MIDI and NoteWorthy Composer files available.<br />
{{Editor|Simone Olivieri|2004-10-05}}{{Copy|Personal}}<br />
:{{EdNotes|}}--><br />
*{{PostedDate|2000-11-27}} {{CPDLno|1715}} [{{website|xmassongbook}} {{net}}] GIF and MIDI files available.<br />
{{Editor|Christopher R. Baker|2000-11-27}}{{CopyCC|Attribution 1.0}}<br />
:{{EdNotes|}}<br />
<br />
===Arrangements===<br />
*{{PostedDate|2018-07-22}} {{CPDLno|50631}} [[Media:Jingle_Bells_-_Full_Score.pdf|{{pdf}}]] [[Media:Jingle_Bells_-_Full_Score.mxl|{{XML}}]]<br />
{{Editor|Francis Melville|2018-07-22}}{{ScoreInfo|A4|6|86}}{{Copy|Personal}}<br />
:{{EdNotes|{{Edc|arr|Francis Melville}} for {{cat|SATB}} unaccompanied.}}<br />
<br />
*{{PostedDate|2016-01-12}} {{CPDLno|38153}} [[Media:Jingle_Bells_SAB.pdf|{{pdf}}]] [[Media:Jingle_Bells_SAB.mxl|{{XML}}]]<br />
{{Editor|John Brown|2016-01-12}}{{ScoreInfo|A4|2|31}}{{Copy|CPDL}}<br />
:{{EdNotes|Work may be freely copied and performed, but please credit the composer, and I'd be very happy to receive feedback.}}<br />
<br />
*{{PostedDate|2013-09-09}} {{CPDLno|30088}} [[Media:Goldmann_Jingle_Bells_SSATBB.pdf|{{pdf}}]] [[Media:Goldmann_Jingle_Bells_SSATBB.mxl|{{XML}}]]<br />
{{Editor|Philipp Goldmann|2013-09-09}}{{ScoreInfo|A4|8|131}}{{Copy|Personal}}<br />
:{{EdNotes|{{Edc|arr|Philipp Goldmann}} for {{cat|6-part choral music|six voices}} {{cat|SSATTB}}. Verses 1, 2 & 4, plus French and German verses.}}<br />
<br />
*{{PostedDate|2021-01-22}} {{CPDLno|30087}} [[Media:Goldmann_Jingle_Bells_(M).pdf|{{pdf}}]] [[Media:Goldmann_Jingle_Bells_(M).mxl|{{XML}}]]<br />
{{Editor|Philipp Goldmann|2021-01-22}}{{ScoreInfo|A4|8|131}}{{Copy|Personal}}<br />
:{{EdNotes|{{Edc|arr|Philipp Goldmann}} for {{cat|5-part choral music|five voices}} {{cat|TTBBB}}. Verses 1,2 & 4, plus French and German verses.}}<br />
<br />
*{{PostedDate|2012-09-19}} {{CPDLno|27185}} [[Media:Jingle_Bells.pdf|{{pdf}}]] [[Media:Jingle Bells.mxl|{{XML}}]] [[Media:Jingle Bells.MUS|{{mus}}]] (Finale 2011)<br />
{{Editor|James W. Keefe|2012-09-19}}{{ScoreInfo|A4|10|49}}{{Copy|Personal}}<br />
:{{EdNotes|Arranged by {{cat|James W. Keefe arrangements|James W. Keefe}} for {{cat|8-part choral music|eight voices}} {{cat|SSAATTBB}}.}}<br />
<br />
*{{PostedDate|2010-11-19}} {{CPDLno|22651}} [[Media:Figus-Jingle.pdf|{{pdf}}]] [[Media:Figus-Jingle.mp3|{{mp3}}]] [[Media:Figus-Jingle.mxl|{{XML}}]] [[Media:Figus-Jingle.MUS|{{mus}}]] (Finale 2007)<br />
{{Editor|Angelina Figus|2010-11-19}}{{ScoreInfo|A4|2|60}}{{Copy|Personal}}<br />
:{{EdNotes|{{Edc|arr|Angelina Figus}} for {{cat|3-part choral music|three voices}} {{cat|SAA}} {{acap}}.}}<br />
<br />
*{{PostedDate|2009-12-24}} {{CPDLno|20573}} {{broken}} [http://www.graememorton.com.au/wp-content/uploads/Jingle-Bells-WR.pdf {{extpdf}}]<br />
{{Editor|Graeme Morton|2009-12-02}}{{ScoreInfo|A4|4|1006}}{{Copy|Personal}}<br />
:{{EdNotes|{{Edc|arr|Graeme Morton}} for {{cat|4-part choral music|four voices}} {{cat|SATB}} {{acap}}. Link broken but available at https://web.archive.org/web/20121224153051/https://www.graememorton.com.au/wp-content/uploads/Jingle-Bells-WR.pdf}}<br />
<br />
*{{PostedDate|2004-09-28}} {{CPDLno|7940}} {{broken}} [http://www.adrianoseccomusic.it {{net}}] PDF and MIDI files available.<br />
{{Editor|Adriano Secco|2004-09-28}}{{ScoreInfo|A4|25|890}}{{Copy|Personal}}<br />
:{{EdNotes|{{Edc|arr|Adriano Secco}} with full orchestra, an a cappella version is also available.}}<br />
<br />
*{{PostedDate|2004-09-28}} {{CPDLno|7939}} {{broken}} [http://www.adrianoseccomusic.it/indexenglish.html {{net}}] PDF and MIDI files available.<br />
{{Editor|Adriano Secco|2004-09-28}}{{ScoreInfo|A4|9|488}}{{Copy|Personal}}<br />
:{{EdNotes|{{Edc|arr|Adriano Secco}} for {{acap}}.}}<br />
<br />
*{{PostedDate|2000-12-27}} {{CPDLno|1918}} [http://karpiniec.net/stefan/freemusi.htm {{net}}]<br />
{{Editor|Stefan Karpiniec|2000-12-27}}{{ScoreInfo|A4|4|27}}{{Copy|Personal}}<br />
:{{EdNotes|Traditional carol, arranged by {{cat|Stefan Karpiniec arrangements|Stefan Karpiniec}}.}}<br />
<br />
==General Information==<br />
{{Title|''Jingle Bells''}}<br />
{{Composer|James Pierpont}}<br />
{{Lyricist|James Pierpont}}<br />
<br />
{{Voicing|4|SATB}}<br />
{{Genre|Secular|Carols}}<br />
{{Language|English}}<br />
{{Instruments|Piano or orchestra, and various in arrangements}}<br />
{{Pub|1|1857}}<br />
{{Descr| }}<br />
{{#ExtWeb:{{Choralia|filter=pij01}}<br />
*[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jingle_Bells Wikipedia article]<br />
*[http://karpiniec.net/stefan/ Stefan Karpiniec's website]}}<br />
<br />
==Original text and translations==<br />
{{Top}}<br />
{{Text|English|<br />
{{Vs|1}} Dashing through the snow,<br />
In a one-horse open sleigh,<br />
O'er the fields we go,<br />
Laughing all the way.<br />
Bells on bobtail ring,<br />
Making spirits bright,<br />
What fun it is to ride and sing<br />
A sleighing song tonight.<br />
<br />
{{Vs|R:}} Jingle bells, jingle bells,<br />
Jingle all the way!<br />
O what fun it is to ride<br />
In a one-horse open sleigh.<br />
<br />
{{Vs|2}} A day or two ago<br />
I thought I'd take a ride<br />
And soon Miss Fanny Bright<br />
Was seated by my side<br />
The horse was lean and lank<br />
Misfortune seemed his lot<br />
We ran into a drifted bank<br />
And there we got upsot.}}<br />
{{Middle}}<br />
{{Text|Simple|<br />
{{Vs|3}} A day or two ago<br />
The story I must tell<br />
I went out in the snow<br />
And on my back I fell;<br />
A gent was riding by<br />
In a one horse open sleigh,<br />
He laughed as there I sprawling lie,<br />
But quickly drove away.<br />
<br />
{{Vs|4}} Now the ground is white<br />
Go at it while you're young,<br />
Take the girls tonight<br />
And sing this sleighing song;<br />
Just get a bob-tailed bay<br />
Two forty as his speed<br />
Hitch him to an open sleigh<br />
And crack, you'll take the lead.}}<br />
{{Bottom}}<br />
{{Top}}<br />
{{Text|French|<br />
Vive le vent, vive le vent, vive le vent d´hiver<br />
Qui s´en va sifflant, soufflant dans les grands sapins verts !<br />
Oh! Vive le temps, vive le temps, vive le temps d´hiver<br />
Boule de neige et Jour de l´An et bonne année grand-mère !}}<br />
{{Translation|French|<br />
Déboulant dans la neige<br />
Dans un traîneau à cheval<br />
Par les champs, nous allons<br />
Riant tout le long du chemin<br />
Les cloches sonnent à l'arrière<br />
Faisant sourire les esprits<br />
Quel plaisir de rire et de chanter<br />
Une chanson de traîneau ce soir.<br />
<br />
Sonnez cloches<br />
Sonnez tout le long<br />
Oh, quel plaisir de monter<br />
Dans un traîneau à cheval.<br />
<br />
Sonnez cloches<br />
Oh entendez les cloches<br />
Déboulant dans la neige<br />
Il n'y a plus de peine<br />
Quand on est dans un traîneau!<br />
<br />
Chacun est tellement gai<br />
On rit : Ah! Ah! Ah! tout du long<br />
Les cloches sonnent à l'arrière<br />
Ting et ding, Ting et ding, Ting et ding!<br />
Déboulant dans la neige éclatante<br />
Il fait moins dix degrés<br />
Comme elles sonnent les cloches.}}<br />
{{Middle}}<br />
{{Text|German|<br />
Zimetstern han I gern,
Mailänderli au,<br />
Tirggel und Spitzbuebele
und a Ring us Willisau,<br />
Läckerli lieben-i,
Chräbeli no mee,<br />
Totebeinli, Pfäffernüss’
mit Puderzuckerschnee.}}<br />
{{Bottom}}<br />
<br />
[[Category:Sheet music]]<br />
[[Category:Christmas (secular)]]<br />
[[Category:Romantic music]]</div>
Vaarky
https://www.cpdl.org/wiki/index.php?title=Jingle_Bells_(James_Pierpont)&diff=1765523
Jingle Bells (James Pierpont)
2023-11-29T05:41:14Z
<p>Vaarky: broken link /* Arrangements */</p>
<hr />
<div>==Music files==<br />
{{#Legend:}}<br />
*{{PostedDate|2021-11-21}} {{CPDLno|66808}} [[Media:Jingle_Bells_adapted.pdf|{{pdf}}]] [[Media:Jingle_Bells_adapted.mid|{{mid}}]] [[Media:Jingle_Bells_adapted.mp3|{{mp3}}]] [[Media:Jingle_Bells_adapted.mxl|{{XML}}]]<br />
{{Editor|William Hale|2021-11-21}}{{ScoreInfo|A4|3|104}}{{Copy|Personal}}<br />
:{{EdNotes|This edition adapts Pierpont's own arrangement as given in the original edition to the tune in the standard modern form. Solo, SATB, piano.}}<br />
<br />
*{{PostedDate|2021-11-21}} {{CPDLno|66801}} [[Media:The_One_Horse_Open_Sleigh_(Jingle_Bells).pdf|{{pdf}}]] [[Media:The_One_Horse_Open_Sleigh_(Jingle_Bells).mid|{{mid}}]] [[Media:The_One_Horse_Open_Sleigh_(Jingle_Bells).mp3|{{mp3}}]] [[Media:The_One_Horse_Open_Sleigh_(Jingle_Bells).mxl|{{XML}}]]<br />
{{Editor|William Hale|2021-11-21}}{{ScoreInfo|A4|4|108}}{{Copy|Personal}}<br />
:{{EdNotes|Transcribed from the original edition (Boston: Oliver Ditson & Co., 1857). Solo, SATB, piano.}}<br />
<br />
*{{PostedDate|2009-12-04}} {{CPDLno|20578}} [[Media:Jingle_bells_v2_a4.pdf|{{pdf}}]] [[Media:Jingle_Bells_v2_a4.mid|{{mid}}]]<br />
{{Editor|David R. King|2009-12-04}}{{ScoreInfo|A4|2|30}}{{Copy|CPDL}}<br />
:{{EdNotes|Straightforward {{acap}} version for SATB.}}<br />
<br />
*{{PostedDate|2006-07-31}} {{CPDLno|12164}} {{IMSLPWork|The One Horse Open Sleigh (Pierpont, James)}} PDF, MIDI and Sibelius 2 files available.<br />
{{Editor|Sven Dierke|2006-07-31}}{{ScoreInfo|A4|3|45}}{{Copy|Personal}}<br />
:{{EdNotes|after first edition, Boston: Ditson, c. 1859}}<br />
<br />
*{{PostedDate|2004-12-12}} {{CPDLno|8722}} [{{website|cipoo_v}} {{net}}] PDF, MIDI and Noteworthy Composer files available.<br />
{{Editor|Marco Gallo|2004-12-12}}{{ScoreInfo|A4|2|36}}{{Copy|Personal}}<br />
:{{EdNotes|}}<br />
<!--<br />
*{{PostedDate|2004-10-05}} {{CPDLno|7991}} {{Broken}}[{{website|olivieri}} {{net}}] PDF, MIDI and NoteWorthy Composer files available.<br />
{{Editor|Simone Olivieri|2004-10-05}}{{Copy|Personal}}<br />
:{{EdNotes|}}--><br />
*{{PostedDate|2000-11-27}} {{CPDLno|1715}} [{{website|xmassongbook}} {{net}}] GIF and MIDI files available.<br />
{{Editor|Christopher R. Baker|2000-11-27}}{{CopyCC|Attribution 1.0}}<br />
:{{EdNotes|}}<br />
<br />
===Arrangements===<br />
*{{PostedDate|2018-07-22}} {{CPDLno|50631}} [[Media:Jingle_Bells_-_Full_Score.pdf|{{pdf}}]] [[Media:Jingle_Bells_-_Full_Score.mxl|{{XML}}]]<br />
{{Editor|Francis Melville|2018-07-22}}{{ScoreInfo|A4|6|86}}{{Copy|Personal}}<br />
:{{EdNotes|{{Edc|arr|Francis Melville}} for {{cat|SATB}} unaccompanied.}}<br />
<br />
*{{PostedDate|2016-01-12}} {{CPDLno|38153}} [[Media:Jingle_Bells_SAB.pdf|{{pdf}}]] [[Media:Jingle_Bells_SAB.mxl|{{XML}}]]<br />
{{Editor|John Brown|2016-01-12}}{{ScoreInfo|A4|2|31}}{{Copy|CPDL}}<br />
:{{EdNotes|Work may be freely copied and performed, but please credit the composer, and I'd be very happy to receive feedback.}}<br />
<br />
*{{PostedDate|2013-09-09}} {{CPDLno|30088}} [[Media:Goldmann_Jingle_Bells_SSATBB.pdf|{{pdf}}]] [[Media:Goldmann_Jingle_Bells_SSATBB.mxl|{{XML}}]]<br />
{{Editor|Philipp Goldmann|2013-09-09}}{{ScoreInfo|A4|8|131}}{{Copy|Personal}}<br />
:{{EdNotes|{{Edc|arr|Philipp Goldmann}} for {{cat|6-part choral music|six voices}} {{cat|SSATTB}}. Verses 1, 2 & 4, plus French and German verses.}}<br />
<br />
*{{PostedDate|2021-01-22}} {{CPDLno|30087}} [[Media:Goldmann_Jingle_Bells_(M).pdf|{{pdf}}]] [[Media:Goldmann_Jingle_Bells_(M).mxl|{{XML}}]]<br />
{{Editor|Philipp Goldmann|2021-01-22}}{{ScoreInfo|A4|8|131}}{{Copy|Personal}}<br />
:{{EdNotes|{{Edc|arr|Philipp Goldmann}} for {{cat|5-part choral music|five voices}} {{cat|TTBBB}}. Verses 1,2 & 4, plus French and German verses.}}<br />
<br />
*{{PostedDate|2012-09-19}} {{CPDLno|27185}} [[Media:Jingle_Bells.pdf|{{pdf}}]] [[Media:Jingle Bells.mxl|{{XML}}]] [[Media:Jingle Bells.MUS|{{mus}}]] (Finale 2011)<br />
{{Editor|James W. Keefe|2012-09-19}}{{ScoreInfo|A4|10|49}}{{Copy|Personal}}<br />
:{{EdNotes|Arranged by {{cat|James W. Keefe arrangements|James W. Keefe}} for {{cat|8-part choral music|eight voices}} {{cat|SSAATTBB}}.}}<br />
<br />
*{{PostedDate|2010-11-19}} {{CPDLno|22651}} [[Media:Figus-Jingle.pdf|{{pdf}}]] [[Media:Figus-Jingle.mp3|{{mp3}}]] [[Media:Figus-Jingle.mxl|{{XML}}]] [[Media:Figus-Jingle.MUS|{{mus}}]] (Finale 2007)<br />
{{Editor|Angelina Figus|2010-11-19}}{{ScoreInfo|A4|2|60}}{{Copy|Personal}}<br />
:{{EdNotes|{{Edc|arr|Angelina Figus}} for {{cat|3-part choral music|three voices}} {{cat|SAA}} {{acap}}.}}<br />
<br />
*{{PostedDate|2009-12-24}} {{CPDLno|20573}} {{broken}} [http://www.graememorton.com.au/wp-content/uploads/Jingle-Bells-WR.pdf {{extpdf}}]<br />
{{Editor|Graeme Morton|2009-12-02}}{{ScoreInfo|A4|4|1006}}{{Copy|Personal}}<br />
:{{EdNotes|{{Edc|arr|Graeme Morton}} for {{cat|4-part choral music|four voices}} {{cat|SATB}} {{acap}}. Link broken but available at https://web.archive.org/web/20121224153051/https://www.graememorton.com.au/wp-content/uploads/Jingle-Bells-WR.pdf}}<br />
<br />
*{{PostedDate|2004-09-28}} {{CPDLno|7940}} [http://www.adrianoseccomusic.it {{net}}] PDF and MIDI files available.<br />
{{Editor|Adriano Secco|2004-09-28}}{{ScoreInfo|A4|25|890}}{{Copy|Personal}}<br />
:{{EdNotes|{{Edc|arr|Adriano Secco}} with full orchestra, an a cappella version is also available.}}<br />
<br />
*{{PostedDate|2004-09-28}} {{CPDLno|7939}} [http://www.adrianoseccomusic.it/indexenglish.html {{net}}] PDF and MIDI files available.<br />
{{Editor|Adriano Secco|2004-09-28}}{{ScoreInfo|A4|9|488}}{{Copy|Personal}}<br />
:{{EdNotes|{{Edc|arr|Adriano Secco}} for {{acap}}.}}<br />
<br />
*{{PostedDate|2000-12-27}} {{CPDLno|1918}} [http://karpiniec.net/stefan/freemusi.htm {{net}}]<br />
{{Editor|Stefan Karpiniec|2000-12-27}}{{ScoreInfo|A4|4|27}}{{Copy|Personal}}<br />
:{{EdNotes|Traditional carol, arranged by {{cat|Stefan Karpiniec arrangements|Stefan Karpiniec}}.}}<br />
<br />
==General Information==<br />
{{Title|''Jingle Bells''}}<br />
{{Composer|James Pierpont}}<br />
{{Lyricist|James Pierpont}}<br />
<br />
{{Voicing|4|SATB}}<br />
{{Genre|Secular|Carols}}<br />
{{Language|English}}<br />
{{Instruments|Piano or orchestra, and various in arrangements}}<br />
{{Pub|1|1857}}<br />
{{Descr| }}<br />
{{#ExtWeb:{{Choralia|filter=pij01}}<br />
*[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jingle_Bells Wikipedia article]<br />
*[http://karpiniec.net/stefan/ Stefan Karpiniec's website]}}<br />
<br />
==Original text and translations==<br />
{{Top}}<br />
{{Text|English|<br />
{{Vs|1}} Dashing through the snow,<br />
In a one-horse open sleigh,<br />
O'er the fields we go,<br />
Laughing all the way.<br />
Bells on bobtail ring,<br />
Making spirits bright,<br />
What fun it is to ride and sing<br />
A sleighing song tonight.<br />
<br />
{{Vs|R:}} Jingle bells, jingle bells,<br />
Jingle all the way!<br />
O what fun it is to ride<br />
In a one-horse open sleigh.<br />
<br />
{{Vs|2}} A day or two ago<br />
I thought I'd take a ride<br />
And soon Miss Fanny Bright<br />
Was seated by my side<br />
The horse was lean and lank<br />
Misfortune seemed his lot<br />
We ran into a drifted bank<br />
And there we got upsot.}}<br />
{{Middle}}<br />
{{Text|Simple|<br />
{{Vs|3}} A day or two ago<br />
The story I must tell<br />
I went out in the snow<br />
And on my back I fell;<br />
A gent was riding by<br />
In a one horse open sleigh,<br />
He laughed as there I sprawling lie,<br />
But quickly drove away.<br />
<br />
{{Vs|4}} Now the ground is white<br />
Go at it while you're young,<br />
Take the girls tonight<br />
And sing this sleighing song;<br />
Just get a bob-tailed bay<br />
Two forty as his speed<br />
Hitch him to an open sleigh<br />
And crack, you'll take the lead.}}<br />
{{Bottom}}<br />
{{Top}}<br />
{{Text|French|<br />
Vive le vent, vive le vent, vive le vent d´hiver<br />
Qui s´en va sifflant, soufflant dans les grands sapins verts !<br />
Oh! Vive le temps, vive le temps, vive le temps d´hiver<br />
Boule de neige et Jour de l´An et bonne année grand-mère !}}<br />
{{Translation|French|<br />
Déboulant dans la neige<br />
Dans un traîneau à cheval<br />
Par les champs, nous allons<br />
Riant tout le long du chemin<br />
Les cloches sonnent à l'arrière<br />
Faisant sourire les esprits<br />
Quel plaisir de rire et de chanter<br />
Une chanson de traîneau ce soir.<br />
<br />
Sonnez cloches<br />
Sonnez tout le long<br />
Oh, quel plaisir de monter<br />
Dans un traîneau à cheval.<br />
<br />
Sonnez cloches<br />
Oh entendez les cloches<br />
Déboulant dans la neige<br />
Il n'y a plus de peine<br />
Quand on est dans un traîneau!<br />
<br />
Chacun est tellement gai<br />
On rit : Ah! Ah! Ah! tout du long<br />
Les cloches sonnent à l'arrière<br />
Ting et ding, Ting et ding, Ting et ding!<br />
Déboulant dans la neige éclatante<br />
Il fait moins dix degrés<br />
Comme elles sonnent les cloches.}}<br />
{{Middle}}<br />
{{Text|German|<br />
Zimetstern han I gern,
Mailänderli au,<br />
Tirggel und Spitzbuebele
und a Ring us Willisau,<br />
Läckerli lieben-i,
Chräbeli no mee,<br />
Totebeinli, Pfäffernüss’
mit Puderzuckerschnee.}}<br />
{{Bottom}}<br />
<br />
[[Category:Sheet music]]<br />
[[Category:Christmas (secular)]]<br />
[[Category:Romantic music]]</div>
Vaarky
https://www.cpdl.org/wiki/index.php?title=Talk:Mass_in_the_International_Language_(Christoph_Dalitz)&diff=1747484
Talk:Mass in the International Language (Christoph Dalitz)
2023-10-03T20:21:52Z
<p>Vaarky: fix my typo</p>
<hr />
<div>:{{ItemPost|by=[[[[User:Vaarky|Vaarky]] ([[User talk:Vaarky|talk]]) 20:18, 3 October 2023 (UTC)]]|text= <br />
In the English part of the Preface, is EspAranto (instead of EspEranto) an error?<br />
}}</div>
Vaarky
https://www.cpdl.org/wiki/index.php?title=Talk:Mass_in_the_International_Language_(Christoph_Dalitz)&diff=1747483
Talk:Mass in the International Language (Christoph Dalitz)
2023-10-03T20:21:20Z
<p>Vaarky: fix formatting</p>
<hr />
<div>:{{ItemPost|by=[[[[User:Vaarky|Vaarky]] ([[User talk:Vaarky|talk]]) 20:18, 3 October 2023 (UTC)]]|text= <br />
In the English part of the Preface, is EspAranto (instead of ErpEranto) an error?<br />
}}</div>
Vaarky
https://www.cpdl.org/wiki/index.php?title=Talk:Mass_in_the_International_Language_(Christoph_Dalitz)&diff=1747482
Talk:Mass in the International Language (Christoph Dalitz)
2023-10-03T20:18:51Z
<p>Vaarky: fix formatting</p>
<hr />
<div>:{{Reply|by=[[[[User:Vaarky|Vaarky]] ([[User talk:Vaarky|talk]]) 20:18, 3 October 2023 (UTC)]]|text= <br />
In the English part of the Preface, is EspAranto (instead of ErpEranto) an error?<br />
}}</div>
Vaarky
https://www.cpdl.org/wiki/index.php?title=Talk:Mass_in_the_International_Language_(Christoph_Dalitz)&diff=1747481
Talk:Mass in the International Language (Christoph Dalitz)
2023-10-03T20:18:22Z
<p>Vaarky: minor typo in Preface?</p>
<hr />
<div>:{{Post|by=[[[[User:Vaarky|Vaarky]] ([[User talk:Vaarky|talk]]) 20:18, 3 October 2023 (UTC)]]|text= <br />
In the English part of the Preface, is EspAranto (instead of ErpEranto) an error?<br />
}}</div>
Vaarky
https://www.cpdl.org/wiki/index.php?title=Help_talk:Copyright_Issues_FAQ&diff=1745236
Help talk:Copyright Issues FAQ
2023-09-29T18:43:45Z
<p>Vaarky: update that e-mail is probably better</p>
<hr />
<div>I have composed a little additional material to the section "Can modern editions of public-domain music be copyrighted?"<br />
<br />
I am a regular contributor to CPDL as well as a practising English lawyer.<br />
<br />
If anyone is interested in reviewing my material please let me know where I should send it [[User:Jgoodliffe|Jgoodliffe]] ([[User talk:Jgoodliffe|talk]]) 11:03, 12 September 2023 (UTC)<br />
<br />
:{{Reply|by=[[User:Vaarky|[[User:Vaarky|Vaarky]] ([[User talk:Vaarky|talk]]) 18:42, 29 September 2023 (UTC)]]|text=<br />
Thank you! Please e-mail to copyright@cpdl.org (probably better) or feel free to post it in this very talk page.<br />
}}</div>
Vaarky
https://www.cpdl.org/wiki/index.php?title=Help_talk:Copyright_Issues_FAQ&diff=1745234
Help talk:Copyright Issues FAQ
2023-09-29T18:42:20Z
<p>Vaarky: reply</p>
<hr />
<div>I have composed a little additional material to the section "Can modern editions of public-domain music be copyrighted?"<br />
<br />
I am a regular contributor to CPDL as well as a practising English lawyer.<br />
<br />
If anyone is interested in reviewing my material please let me know where I should send it [[User:Jgoodliffe|Jgoodliffe]] ([[User talk:Jgoodliffe|talk]]) 11:03, 12 September 2023 (UTC)<br />
<br />
:{{Reply|by=[[User:Vaarky|[[User:Vaarky|Vaarky]] ([[User talk:Vaarky|talk]]) 18:42, 29 September 2023 (UTC)]]|text=<br />
Thank you! Please e-mail to copyright@cpdl.org or feel free to post it in this very talk page.<br />
}}</div>
Vaarky
https://www.cpdl.org/wiki/index.php?title=Simile_est_regnum_coelorum_(Jacobus_Vaet)&diff=1735821
Simile est regnum coelorum (Jacobus Vaet)
2023-08-28T08:12:36Z
<p>Vaarky: /* General Information */ fix voicing</p>
<hr />
<div>==Music files==<br />
{{#Legend:}}<br />
*{{PostedDate|2021-02-17}} {{CPDLno|63009}} [[Media:Vaet_-_Simile_est_regnum_coelorum.pdf|{{pdf}}]] [[Media:Vaet_-_Simile_est_regnum_coelorum.midi|{{mid}}]] [[Media:Vaet_-_Simile_est_regnum_coelorum.mxl|{{XML}}]] [[Media:Vaet_-_Simile_est_regnum_coelorum.ly|{{Ly}}]]<br />
{{Editor|Pothárn Imre|2021-02-17}} {{ScoreInfo|A4|6|131}}{{Copy|CPDL}}<br />
:{{EdNotes|Transcribed from 1564 print. Original key (chiavi naturali) and note values.}}<br />
<br />
==General Information==<br />
{{Title|''Simile est regnum coelorum''}}<br />
{{Composer|Jacobus Vaet}}<br />
{{Lyricist|}}<br />
<br />
{{Voicing|5|STTTB}}<br />
{{Genre|Sacred|Motets}}<br />
{{Language|Latin}}<br />
{{Instruments|A cappella}}<br />
{{Pub|1|1564|in ''[[Thesaurus Musicus (1564)]]''|vol=Volume 4|no=14}}<br />
{{Descr|Apt for {{Cat|Pentecost XI|OT 17A}}}}<br />
{{#ExtWeb:}}<br />
<br />
==Original text and translations==<br />
{{Text|Latin|<br />
Simile est regnum coelorum homini negotiatori quaerenti bonas margaritas.<br />
Inventa una pretiosa dedit omnia sua et comparavit eam.<br />
}}<br />
<br />
[[Category:Sheet music]]<br />
[[Category:Renaissance music]]</div>
Vaarky
https://www.cpdl.org/wiki/index.php?title=Ne_reminiscaris_(Jacobus_Vaet)&diff=1735819
Ne reminiscaris (Jacobus Vaet)
2023-08-28T08:05:25Z
<p>Vaarky: /* General Information */ fix voicing</p>
<hr />
<div>==Music files==<br />
{{#Legend:}}<br />
*{{PostedDate|2021-08-09}} {{CPDLno|65413}} [[Media:Vaet_NeRem.pdf|{{pdf}}]] [[Media:Vaet_NeRem.mxl|{{XML}}]]<br />
{{Editor|Mick Swithinbank|2021-08-09}}{{ScoreInfo|A4|6|86}}{{Copy|CPDL}}<br />
:{{EdNotes|}}<br />
<br />
==General Information==<br />
{{Title|Ne reminiscaris}}<br />
{{Composer|Jacobus Vaet}}<br />
{{Lyricist|}}<br><br />
{{Voicing|6|STTTBB|add=(or {{cat|SATTBB}})}}<br />
{{Genre|Sacred|Motets}}<br />
{{Language|Latin}}<br />
{{Instruments|A cappella}}<br />
{{Pub|1|1564|in ''[[Thesaurus Musicus (1564)]]''|vol=Volume 3|no=18}}<br />
{{Descr|Source: THESAVRI MVSICI TOMVS TERTIVS CONTINENS CANTIONES SACRAS, QVAS VVLGO MOTETAS VOCANT,<br />
EX OPTIMIS MVSICIS SELECTAS, Sex Vocum, Berg & Neuber, Nuremberg, 1564. Not the most anguished setting of these words.}}<br />
{{#ExtWeb:}}<br />
<br />
==Original text and translations==<br />
{{LinkText|Ne reminiscaris Domine}}<br />
<br />
[[Category:Sheet music]]<br />
[[Category:Renaissance music]]</div>
Vaarky
https://www.cpdl.org/wiki/index.php?title=Ne_reminiscaris_(Jacobus_Vaet)&diff=1735817
Ne reminiscaris (Jacobus Vaet)
2023-08-28T08:04:10Z
<p>Vaarky: /* General Information */ add voicing</p>
<hr />
<div>==Music files==<br />
{{#Legend:}}<br />
*{{PostedDate|2021-08-09}} {{CPDLno|65413}} [[Media:Vaet_NeRem.pdf|{{pdf}}]] [[Media:Vaet_NeRem.mxl|{{XML}}]]<br />
{{Editor|Mick Swithinbank|2021-08-09}}{{ScoreInfo|A4|6|86}}{{Copy|CPDL}}<br />
:{{EdNotes|}}<br />
<br />
==General Information==<br />
{{Title|Ne reminiscaris}}<br />
{{Composer|Jacobus Vaet}}<br />
{{Lyricist|}}<br><br />
{{Voicing|6|STTTBB|add=(or {{cat|SATTBB)}}}}<br />
{{Genre|Sacred|Motets}}<br />
{{Language|Latin}}<br />
{{Instruments|A cappella}}<br />
{{Pub|1|1564|in ''[[Thesaurus Musicus (1564)]]''|vol=Volume 3|no=18}}<br />
{{Descr|Source: THESAVRI MVSICI TOMVS TERTIVS CONTINENS CANTIONES SACRAS, QVAS VVLGO MOTETAS VOCANT,<br />
EX OPTIMIS MVSICIS SELECTAS, Sex Vocum, Berg & Neuber, Nuremberg, 1564. Not the most anguished setting of these words.}}<br />
{{#ExtWeb:}}<br />
<br />
==Original text and translations==<br />
{{LinkText|Ne reminiscaris Domine}}<br />
<br />
[[Category:Sheet music]]<br />
[[Category:Renaissance music]]</div>
Vaarky
https://www.cpdl.org/wiki/index.php?title=Huc_me_sydereo_(Jacobus_Vaet)&diff=1735816
Huc me sydereo (Jacobus Vaet)
2023-08-28T08:03:25Z
<p>Vaarky: /* General Information */ add voicing</p>
<hr />
<div>==Music files==<br />
{{#Legend:}}<br />
*{{PostedDate|2022-06-20}} {{CPDLno|69755}} [[Media:Vaet_Huc_me.pdf|{{pdf}}]] [[Media:Vaet_Huc_me.mxl|{{XML}}]]<br />
{{Editor|Mick Swithinbank|2022-06-20}}{{ScoreInfo|A4|15|171}}{{Copy|CPDL}}<br />
:{{EdNotes|}}<br />
<br />
==General Information==<br />
{{Title|Huc me sydereo}}<br />
{{Composer|Jacobus Vaet}}<br />
{{Lyricist|Maffeo Vegio}}<br><br />
{{Voicing|6|SSATTB|add=(or {{cat|SAATTB}})}}<br />
{{Genre|Sacred|Motets}}<br />
{{Language|Latin}}<br />
{{Instruments|A cappella}}<br />
{{Pub|1|1564|in ''[[Thesaurus Musicus (1564)]]''|vol=Volume 3|no=20}}<br />
{{Descr|Published by Berg & Neuber, Nuremberg, 1564. The text, by Maffeo Vegio, concerning Christ's Passion, was also set by Josquin.}}<br />
{{#ExtWeb:}}<br />
<br />
==Original text and translations==<br />
{{LinkText|Huc me sydereo (Orlando di Lasso)}}<br />
<br />
[[Category:Sheet music]]<br />
[[Category:Renaissance music]]</div>
Vaarky
https://www.cpdl.org/wiki/index.php?title=Huc_me_sydereo_(Jacobus_Vaet)&diff=1735815
Huc me sydereo (Jacobus Vaet)
2023-08-28T07:54:48Z
<p>Vaarky: /* General Information */ add voicing</p>
<hr />
<div>==Music files==<br />
{{#Legend:}}<br />
*{{PostedDate|2022-06-20}} {{CPDLno|69755}} [[Media:Vaet_Huc_me.pdf|{{pdf}}]] [[Media:Vaet_Huc_me.mxl|{{XML}}]]<br />
{{Editor|Mick Swithinbank|2022-06-20}}{{ScoreInfo|A4|15|171}}{{Copy|CPDL}}<br />
:{{EdNotes|}}<br />
<br />
==General Information==<br />
{{Title|Huc me sydereo}}<br />
{{Composer|Jacobus Vaet}}<br />
{{Lyricist|Maffeo Vegio}}<br><br />
{{Voicing|6|SSATTB|add=(or {{cat|SAAATB}})}}<br />
{{Genre|Sacred|Motets}}<br />
{{Language|Latin}}<br />
{{Instruments|A cappella}}<br />
{{Pub|1|1564|in ''[[Thesaurus Musicus (1564)]]''|vol=Volume 3|no=20}}<br />
{{Descr|Published by Berg & Neuber, Nuremberg, 1564. The text, by Maffeo Vegio, concerning Christ's Passion, was also set by Josquin.}}<br />
{{#ExtWeb:}}<br />
<br />
==Original text and translations==<br />
{{LinkText|Huc me sydereo (Orlando di Lasso)}}<br />
<br />
[[Category:Sheet music]]<br />
[[Category:Renaissance music]]</div>
Vaarky
https://www.cpdl.org/wiki/index.php?title=O_Thoma_didyme_(Pierre_de_Manchicourt)&diff=1734923
O Thoma didyme (Pierre de Manchicourt)
2023-08-24T00:51:29Z
<p>Vaarky: /* General Information */ add voicing</p>
<hr />
<div>==Music files==<br />
{{#Legend:}}<br />
*{{PostedDate|2017-10-09}} {{CPDLno|46681}} [[Media:Man_OTh.pdf|{{pdf}}]] [[Media:Man_OTh.mxl|{{XML}}]]<br />
{{Editor|Mick Swithinbank|2017-10-09}}{{ScoreInfo|A4|15|98}}{{Copy|CPDL}}<br />
:{{EdNotes|Original pitch and note values; modern clefs. Two notes altered, as indicated in the score.}}<br />
<br />
==General Information==<br />
{{Title|''O_Thoma_didyme''}}<br />
{{Composer|Pierre de Manchicourt}}<br />
{{Lyricist|}}<br />
<br />
{{Voicing|5|STTTB|add=(or {{cat|SATTB}})}}<br />
{{Genre|Sacred|Magnificat antiphons}}<br />
{{Language|Latin}}<br />
{{Instruments|A cappella}}<br />
{{Pub|1|1534|in ''[[Motettorum, Book 7 (Pierre Attaingnant)]]''|no=15}}<br />
{{Descr|One of the additional 'Great Antiphons' that were sung at Notre Dame in Paris but not among the standard seven such antiphons sung elsewhere. The original clefs were C1, C3, C3, C4, F4.}}<br />
{{#ExtWeb:}}<br />
<br />
==Original text and translations==<br />
{{Text|Latin|<br />
O Thoma Didyme<br />
per Christum quem meruisti tangere<br />
te precibus oramus altissonis<br />
succurre nobis miseris<br />
ne damnemur cum impiis in adventu judicis.}}<br />
<br />
[[Category:Sheet music]]<br />
[[Category:Renaissance music]]</div>
Vaarky
https://www.cpdl.org/wiki/index.php?title=Noli_aemulari_(William_Mundy)&diff=1732672
Noli aemulari (William Mundy)
2023-08-07T06:15:08Z
<p>Vaarky: /* General Information */ update voicing</p>
<hr />
<div>==Music files==<br />
{{#Legend:}}<br />
*{{PostedDate|2022-08-08}}<br />
:{{CPDLno|70299}} Source pitch for ATTBarB: [[Media:Mundy-Noli(low).pdf|{{pdf}}]] [[Media:Mundy-Noli(low).mid|{{mid}}]] [[Media:Mundy-Noli(low).mxl|{{XML}}]]<br />
:{{CPDLno|70298}} Transposed up a major third for SAATB: [[Media:Mundy-Noli(high).pdf|{{pdf}}]] [[Media:Mundy-Noli(high).mid|{{mid}}]] [[Media:Mundy-Noli(high).mxl|{{XML}}]]<br />
{{Editor|Jason Smart|2022-08-08}}{{ScoreInfo|A4|22|392}}{{Copy|Creative Commons Attribution Non-Commercial No Derivatives}}<br />
:{{EdNotes|Edited from the surviving Tudor sources. Original note values retained. Missing Tenor part reonstructed editorially, building upon an earlier edition by Frank Harrison.}}<br />
<br />
==General Information==<br />
{{Title|Noli aemulari}}<br />
{{Composer|William Mundy}}<br />
{{Lyricist|}}<br><br />
{{Voicing|7|SSAATBB|SSAATBB|add=or without gymel {{Vcat|ATTBB}} or {{Vcat|SAATB}}}}<br />
{{Genre|Sacred|Motets}}<br />
{{Language|Latin}}<br />
{{Instruments|A cappella}}<br />
{{Pub|1|}}<br />
{{Descr|A setting of selected verses from psalm 37.}}<br />
{{#ExtWeb:}}<br />
<br />
==Original text and translations==<br />
{{LinkText|Psalm 37}}<br />
<br />
[[Category:Sheet music]]<br />
[[Category:Renaissance music]]</div>
Vaarky
https://www.cpdl.org/wiki/index.php?title=O_quam_gloriosum_(Francesco_Bianciardi)&diff=1732671
O quam gloriosum (Francesco Bianciardi)
2023-08-07T06:03:30Z
<p>Vaarky: /* General Information */ add voicing</p>
<hr />
<div>==Music files==<br />
{{#Legend:}}<br />
*{{PostedDate|2022-10-30}} {{CPDLno|71320}} [[Media:13-bianciardi--o_quam_gloriosum_est_regnum----0-score.pdf|{{pdf}}]] [[Media:13-bianciardi--o_quam_gloriosum_est_regnum----0-score.midi|{{mid}}]] [[Media:13-bianciardi--o_quam_gloriosum_est_regnum----0-score.mxl|{{XML}}]] [[Media:13-bianciardi-motet-a5-o_quam_gloriosum_est_regnum-source.zip|{{zip}}]] (LilyPond)<br />
{{Editor|Allen Garvin|2022-10-30}}{{ScoreInfo|Letter|3|63}}{{Copy|Creative Commons Attribution Non-Commercial}}<br />
:{{EdNotes|}}<br />
<br />
==General Information==<br />
{{Title|O quam gloriosum}}<br />
{{Composer|Francesco Bianciardi}}<br />
{{Lyricist|}}<br><br />
{{Voicing|5|SSAAB|SSAAB|add=or {{Vcat|SAATB}}, or {{Vcat|SATTB}}}}<br />
{{Genre|Sacred|Motets}}<br />
{{Language|Latin}}<br />
{{Instruments|A cappella}}<br />
{{Pub|1|1596| in ''{{NoCo|Sacrarum modulationum liber primus}}'' (Venice: Gardano)|no=13}}<br />
{{Descr|}}<br />
{{#ExtWeb:}}<br />
<br />
==Original text and translations==<br />
{{LinkText|O quam gloriosum}}<br />
<br />
[[Category:Sheet music]]<br />
[[Category:Renaissance music]]</div>
Vaarky
https://www.cpdl.org/wiki/index.php?title=O_quam_gloriosum_(Francesco_Bianciardi)&diff=1732667
O quam gloriosum (Francesco Bianciardi)
2023-08-07T05:42:53Z
<p>Vaarky: /* General Information */ add voicing</p>
<hr />
<div>==Music files==<br />
{{#Legend:}}<br />
*{{PostedDate|2022-10-30}} {{CPDLno|71320}} [[Media:13-bianciardi--o_quam_gloriosum_est_regnum----0-score.pdf|{{pdf}}]] [[Media:13-bianciardi--o_quam_gloriosum_est_regnum----0-score.midi|{{mid}}]] [[Media:13-bianciardi--o_quam_gloriosum_est_regnum----0-score.mxl|{{XML}}]] [[Media:13-bianciardi-motet-a5-o_quam_gloriosum_est_regnum-source.zip|{{zip}}]] (LilyPond)<br />
{{Editor|Allen Garvin|2022-10-30}}{{ScoreInfo|Letter|3|63}}{{Copy|Creative Commons Attribution Non-Commercial}}<br />
:{{EdNotes|}}<br />
<br />
==General Information==<br />
{{Title|O quam gloriosum}}<br />
{{Composer|Francesco Bianciardi}}<br />
{{Lyricist|}}<br><br />
{{Voicing|5|SSAAB|SSAAB|add=or {{Vcat|SATTB}}}}<br />
{{Genre|Sacred|Motets}}<br />
{{Language|Latin}}<br />
{{Instruments|A cappella}}<br />
{{Pub|1|1596| in ''{{NoCo|Sacrarum modulationum liber primus}}'' (Venice: Gardano)|no=13}}<br />
{{Descr|}}<br />
{{#ExtWeb:}}<br />
<br />
==Original text and translations==<br />
{{LinkText|O quam gloriosum}}<br />
<br />
[[Category:Sheet music]]<br />
[[Category:Renaissance music]]</div>
Vaarky
https://www.cpdl.org/wiki/index.php?title=Inter_natos_mulierum_(Ivo_de_Vento)&diff=1703493
Inter natos mulierum (Ivo de Vento)
2023-02-17T07:53:58Z
<p>Vaarky: add alternate voicing</p>
<hr />
<div>==Music files==<br />
{{#Legend:}}<br />
*{{PostedDate|2014-12-15}} {{CPDLno|33721}} [[Media:De_Vento-Inter_natos_mulierem.pdf|{{pdf}}]] [[Media:De_Vento-Inter_natos_mulierem.MID|{{mid}}]] [[Media:De_Vento-Inter_natos_mulierem.mxl|{{XML}}]] [[Media:De_Vento-Inter_natos_mulierem.MUS|{{mus}}]] (Finale 2008)<br />
{{Editor|André Vierendeels|2014-12-15}}{{ScoreInfo|A4|3|88}}{{Copy|CPDL}}<br />
{{ScoreError}}<br />
:{{EdNotes|}}<br />
<br />
*{{PostedDate|2012-10-05}} {{CPDLno|27270}} [[Media:Devento-internatos.pdf|{{pdf}}]] [[Media:Devento-internatos.mid|{{mid}}]] [[Media:Devento-internatos.mxl|{{XML}}]] [[Media:Devento-internatos.sib|{{sib}}]] (Sibelius 6)<br />
{{Editor|Lewis Jones|2012-10-05}}{{ScoreInfo|A4|3|42}}{{Copy|Personal}}<br />
:{{EdNotes|Edited from facsimile of original Berg print.}}<br />
<br />
==General Information==<br />
{{Title|''Inter natos mulierum''}}<br />
{{Composer|Ivo de Vento}}<br />
<br />
{{Voicing|4|ATTB, SATB}}<br />
{{Genre|Sacred|Motets}}<br />
{{Language|Latin}}<br />
{{Instruments|A cappella}}<br />
{{Pub|1|1571|in ''{{NoCo|Liber mottetorum quatuor vocum}}''|no=12}}<br />
{{Descr| }}<br />
{{#ExtWeb:}}<br />
<br />
==Original text and translations==<br />
{{LinkText|Inter natos mulierum}}<br />
<br />
[[Category:Sheet music]]<br />
[[Category:Renaissance music]]<br />
[[Category:John the Baptist]]</div>
Vaarky
https://www.cpdl.org/wiki/index.php?title=La,_la,_la,_je_ne_l%27ose_dire_(Pierre_Certon)&diff=1619507
La, la, la, je ne l'ose dire (Pierre Certon)
2022-02-15T07:08:36Z
<p>Vaarky: /* Music files */ changing type of copyright license on Brian Russell edition per discussino with his estate</p>
<hr />
<div>==Music files==<br />
{{#Legend:}}<br />
* {{PostedDate| 2020-06-16}} {{CPDLno|59273}} [[Media:La_la_la_je_n_ose_le_dire.pdf|{{pdf}}]] [[Media:La_la_la_je_n_ose_le_dire.mxl|{{XML}}]] [[Media:La_la_la_je_n_ose_le_dire.mscz|{{Muse3}}]]<br />
{{Editor|Pierre Bacquet|2020-06-16}} {{ScoreInfo|A4|2|54}}{{Copy|CPDL}}<br />
:{{EdNotes|Edition with the 2 additional verses.}}<br />
<br />
*{{PostedDate|2016-08-26}} {{CPDLno|40913}} [http://stcpress.org/miscellaneous/la_la_la/la_la_la.pdf {{extpdf}}] [http://stcpress.org/miscellaneous/la_la_la/la_la_la.mid {{extmid}}] [http://stcpress.org/miscellaneous/la_la_la/la_la_la.mp3 {{extmp3}}] [https://github.com/st-cecilia-press/miscellaneous/blob/master/la_la_la/la_la_la.ly {{extly}}] [http://stcpress.org/pieces/la_la_la {{net}}] Part Midis and Mp3s Available<br />
{{Editor|Monique Rio|2016-08-26}}{{ScoreInfo|Letter|1|206}}{{CopyCC|Attribution 4.0}}<br />
:{{EdNotes|}}<br />
<br />
*{{PostedDate|2016-05-30}} {{CPDLno|39865}} [[Media:Certon-je_ne_l_ose_dire.pdf|{{pdf}}]] [[Media:Certon-je_ne_l_ose_dire.mxl|{{XML}}]] [[Media:Certon-je_ne_l_ose_dire.mscz|{{Muse}}]]<br />
{{Editor|Alexander Myltsev|2016-05-30}}{{ScoreInfo|A4|2|523}}{{Copy|Public Domain}}<br />
:{{EdNotes|}}<br />
<br />
*{{PostedDate|2015-02-26}} {{CPDLno|34678}} [http://notenova.com?p=1715 {{net}}]<br />
{{Editor|Casey Rule|2015-02-26}}{{ScoreInfo|Letter|2|50}}{{Copy|Personal}}<br />
:{{EdNotes|}}<br />
<br />
*{{PostedDate|2013-11-09}} {{CPDLno|30517}} [[Media:Certon_La,_la,_la.pdf|{{pdf}}]] [[Media:Certon_La,_la,_la.mid|{{mid}}]] [[Media:Certon_La,_la.mxl|{{XML}}]] [[Media:Certon_La,_la,_la.mp4|{{Mp4}}]]<-MP4 file<br />
{{Editor|Claude Tallet|2013-11-09}}{{ScoreInfo|A4|1|98}}{{Copy|CPDL}}<br />
:{{EdNotes|SAB version.}}<br />
<br />
*{{PostedDate|2005-10-26}} {{CPDLno|10011}} [[Media:Certon-la_la_la.pdf|{{pdf}}]]<br />
{{Editor|Toby Wardman|2005-10-26}}{{ScoreInfo|Letter|1|52}}{{Copy|Personal}}<br />
:{{EdNotes|single page, closed staff edition.}}<br />
<br />
*{{PostedDate|2005-08-30}} {{CPDLno|9205}} [[Media:025.pdf|{{pdf}}]] [[Media:br-025.mid|{{mid}}]] [[Media:br-025.mxl|{{XML}}]] [[Media:br-025.nwc|{{NWC}}]]<br />
{{Editor|Brian Russell|2005-08-30}}{{ScoreInfo|A4|2|21}}{{Copy|CPDL}}<br />
:{{EdNotes|{{NWCV}}}}<br />
<br />
*{{PostedDate|2004-07-03}} {{CPDLno|7505}} [http://www.solovoces.com/es/listado-de-partituras-0 {{net}}]<br />
{{Editor|Fernando Gómez Jácome|2004-07-03}}{{ScoreInfo|A4|2|66}}{{Copy|Personal}}<br />
:{{EdNotes|}}<br />
<br />
*{{PostedDate|2001-02-16}} {{CPDLno|2081}} [http://arenai.free.fr/Database.htm {{net}}] PDF & MIDI files<br />
{{Editor|François-Xavier Chauchat|2001-02-16}}{{ScoreInfo|A4|3|38}}{{Copy|Personal}}<br />
:{{EdNotes|}}<br />
<br />
*{{PostedDate|1999-09-09}} {{CPDLno|97}} [[Media:ws-cer-lala.pdf|{{Pdf}}]] [[Media:Certon_la_la_la.mid|{{mid}}]] [[Media:Certon_la_la_la.mus|{{mus}}]] (Finale 1998)<br />
{{Editor|Emilio Cano Molina|1999-09-09}}{{ScoreInfo|Letter|2|32}}{{Copy|Personal}}<br />
:{{EdNotes|MIDI and Finale files uploaded to CPDL server 2008-05-30.}}<br />
<br />
==General Information==<br />
{{Title|''La, la, la, je ne l'ose dire''}}<br />
{{Composer|Pierre Certon}}<br />
<br />
{{Voicing|4|SATB}}<br />
{{Genre|Secular|Chansons}}<br />
{{Language|French}}<br />
{{Instruments|A cappella}}<br />
{{Pub|1|1538|in {{NoComp|Livre 3: 28 chansons a 4|Pierre Attaingnant}} (Pierre Attaingnant)|vol=Edition 1|no=4}}<br />
{{Descr| }}<br />
{{#ExtWeb:}}<br />
==Original text and translations==<br />
{{top}}<br />
{{Text|French|<br />
:''La, la, la, je ne l'o… je ne l'o…''<br />
:''je ne l'ose dire.''<br />
:''La, la, la, je le vous dirai,''<br />
:''et la, la, la, je le vous dirai.''<br />
<br />
Il est un homme en not' ville<br />
qui de sa femme est jaloux.<br />
Il n'est pas jaloux sans cause,<br />
mais il est cocu de tout.<br />
:''La, la, la…''<br />
<br />
Il n'est pas jaloux sans cause,<br />
mais il est cocu de tout.<br />
Il aprete et si la mene<br />
au marche s'en va a tout.<br />
:''La, la, la…''<br />
<br />
<small>''Two more verses appear in at least<br />
one edition (Collection Renaissance,<br />
Les Presses d'Île-de-France, 1974):''</small><br />
<br />
Enfin, las de ce supplice<br />
Le pauvre homme se pendit<br />
Mais sa femme par malice<br />
Chez Lucifer le suivit<br />
:''La, la, la…''<br />
<br />
La morale de cette histoire<br />
C'est qu'avant de se marier<br />
Il faut savoir le jour même<br />
Que c'est pour l'éternité<br />
:''La, la, la…''}}<br />
{{mdl|4}}<br />
{{Translation|English|<br />
:''La, la, la, shouldn't tell,''<br />
:''Shouldn't tell, shouldn't tell it to you''<br />
:''La la la, I'll tell you anyway''<br />
:''Oh la, la, la, I'll tell you anyway''<br />
<br />
In our town there is a man, who<br />
Of his wife burns with jealousy<br />
He's not jealous without cause,<br />
She cuckolds him incessantly<br />
:''La, la, la…''<br />
<br />
He's not jealous without cause,<br />
She cuckolds him incessantly<br />
He takes her over to the market<br />
When she's there she makes most free<br />
:''La, la, la…''<br />
<br />
At last, overcome by his plight<br />
That poor man did himself in<br />
But his lady out of sheer spite<br />
Followed him to Satan’s den.<br />
:''La, la, la…''<br />
<br />
For a moral of this tableau<br />
You should know with certainty<br />
That when to the altar you go<br />
It is for eternity.<br />
:''La, la, la…''}}<br />
<br />
{{mdl|4}}<br />
{{Translation|Dutch|<br />
:''En la, la la, durve ni, durve ni,''<br />
:''La, la, la, durf ‘et oâst ni zegge,''<br />
:''La, la, la, môr ‘k zeg het toch wel.''<br />
<br />
Er is ne vent in onze stroâte,<br />
Die’s jaloes van zijn madam.<br />
En è houdt heur in de goâte,<br />
Môr è wet’ er just niks van.<br />
:''En la, la la…''<br />
<br />
En è houdt heur in de goâte,<br />
Môr è wet’ er just niks van.<br />
Als ‘em klêer is, gâ ze boâte,<br />
Nôr de mar’t mé alleman.<br />
:''En la, la la…''}}<br />
<br />
{{Translator|Jan Wyns}}<br />
<br />
{{mdl|4}}<br />
{{Translation|Esperanto|<br />
:''La, la, la, mi ne po… mi ne po…''<br />
:''Mi ne povas diri''<br />
:''La, la, la, sed aŭskultu jen.''<br />
:''Ho, la, la, la, sed aŭskultu jen.''<br />
<br />
Estas vir’ en nia urbo,<br />
li ĵaluzas pri l’ edzin’<br />
Ne malprave li ĵaluzas,<br />
ŝi senhonte kokras lin. ''Ho, la, la, la.''<br />
:''La, la, la…''<br />
<br />
Ne malprave li ĵaluzas,<br />
ŝi senhonte kokras lin.<br />
Malgraŭ lia dorlotado,<br />
flirtas ŝi laŭ korinklin’. ''Ho, la, la, la.''<br />
:''La, la, la…''}}<br />
<br />
{{Translator|Arjen-Sjoerd de Vries and Saksia Idzerda}}<br />
{{btm}}<br />
<br />
[[Category:Sheet music]]<br />
[[Category:Renaissance music]]</div>
Vaarky
https://www.cpdl.org/wiki/index.php?title=Help:Contact_CPDL&diff=1582673
Help:Contact CPDL
2021-10-04T21:54:09Z
<p>Vaarky: make "best" bold</p>
<hr />
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* [[Help:Contents|Help pages]]<br />
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<br />
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Vaarky
https://www.cpdl.org/wiki/index.php?title=Help:Contact_CPDL&diff=1582672
Help:Contact CPDL
2021-10-04T21:53:31Z
<p>Vaarky: add link to donations contact info</p>
<hr />
<div>There are several ways to find information or to comment or ask questions. They are<br />
<br />
* [[Help:Contents|Help pages]]<br />
* [{{MediaWiki:Discussions-url}} CPDL Forums] -- this is the best mechanism for general questions and in the event of an emergency. (Requires a separate registration from this wiki, but you can request the same username and choose a password of your choice that you can set to be the same or different.)<br />
* Deprecated: [[ChoralWiki:Bulletin_board|Old Bulletin board on CPDL]] -- please use the new one above instead.<br />
* Discussion pages for a specific wiki page: Each wiki page has a discussion page; see the tab near the top of every page.<br />
* If you believe your '''copyright''' is being violated, please see the information [[Help:How_to_contact_CPDL_about_DMCA_claims|here]].<br />
* In an '''emergency''', please post on the CPDL [{{MediaWiki:Discussions-url}} forums] as mentioned above, since that allows multiple people to read about the issue and expedites response. You can also try contacting an individual CPDL [[ChoralWiki:Administrators|Administrator]], but please do this in '''addition''' to using the forum mechanism rather than instead of, since a specific individual you contact may be away.<br />
* Organizations wishing to inquire about '''corporate sponsorship''' (such as is listed on the left margin of CPDL pages) should contact sponsors{{@}}cpdl.org.<br />
* If you wish to '''donate''' to support CPDL, please see our [[ChoralWiki:Donations|donations]] page.<br />
<br />
{{Help}}<br />
[[Category:Help]]</div>
Vaarky
https://www.cpdl.org/wiki/index.php?title=Edition:CPDL_55798&diff=1464424
Edition:CPDL 55798
2021-05-21T02:12:50Z
<p>Vaarky: try to fix formatting</p>
<hr />
<div>{{ {{{1|ShowEdition}}}<br />
| EdNo = 55798<br />
| Status = withdrawn<br />
| PageTitle = [[Hear My Prayer (Moses Hogan)]]<br />
| posted = 2019-11-01<br />
| filelinks = :CPDLHearMyPrayer.pdf CPDLHearMyPrayer.mid CPDLHearMyPrayer.mxl<br />
| orig =<br />
{{Editor|John Christensen|2019-11-01}} {{ScoreInfo|A4|4|72}}{{Copy|CPDL}}<br />
:{{EdNotes|}}<br />
}}</div>
Vaarky
https://www.cpdl.org/wiki/index.php?title=Edition:CPDL_55798&diff=1464423
Edition:CPDL 55798
2021-05-21T02:05:26Z
<p>Vaarky: create page for withdrawn edition</p>
<hr />
<div>{{ {{{1|ShowEdition}}}<br />
| EdNo = 55798<br />
| Status = withdrawn<br />
| PageTitle = [[Hear My Prayer (Moses Hogan)]]<br />
| posted = 2019-11-01<br />
| filelinks = :CPDLHearMyPrayer.pdf CPDLHearMyPrayer.mid CPDLHearMyPrayer.mxl<br />
| orig =<br />
{{Editor|John Christensen|2019-11-01}} {{ScoreInfo|A4|4|72}}{{Copy|CPDL}}<br />
:{{EdNotes|}}</div>
Vaarky
https://www.cpdl.org/wiki/index.php?title=Hear_My_Prayer_(Moses_Hogan)&diff=1464419
Hear My Prayer (Moses Hogan)
2021-05-21T01:58:04Z
<p>Vaarky: withdrawn per communication with contributing editor</p>
<hr />
<div>==Music files==<br />
{{#Legend:}}<br />
*{{:Edition:CPDL 55798}}<br />
<!--<br />
*{{PostedDate|2019-11-01}} {{CPDLno|55798}} [[Media:CPDLHearMyPrayer.pdf|{{pdf}}]] [[Media:CPDLHearMyPrayer.mid|{{mid}}]] [[Media:CPDLHearMyPrayer.mxl|{{XML}}]]<br />
{{Editor|John Christensen|2019-11-01}} {{ScoreInfo|A4|4|72}}{{Copy|CPDL}}<br />
:{{EdNotes|}}<br />
--><br />
==General Information==<br />
{{Title|''Hear My Prayer''}}<br />
{{Composer|Moses Hogan}}<br />
{{Lyricist|Moses Hogan}}<br />
<br />
{{Voicing|4|SATB}}<br><br />
{{Genre|Sacred|Unknown}}<br />
{{Language|English}}<br />
{{Instruments|Unknown}}<br />
{{Pub|1|}}<br />
{{Descr| }}<br />
{{#ExtWeb:}}<br />
==Original text and translations==<br />
{{Text|English|<br />
O Lord, please hear my prayer, in the mornin' when I rise.<br />
It's your servant bound for glory.<br />
O dear Lord, please hear my prayer.<br />
O Lord, please hear my prayer, keep me safe within your arms.<br />
It's your servant bound for glory.<br />
O dear Lord, please hear my prayer.<br />
When my work on earth is done, and you come to take me home.<br />
Just to know I'm bound for glory.<br />
And to hear you say well done.<br />
Done with sin and sorrow, have mercy.<br />
Amen.}}<br />
<br />
{{All editions withdrawn}}<br />
[[Category:Sheet music]]<br />
[[Category:Modern music]]</div>
Vaarky
https://www.cpdl.org/wiki/index.php?title=ChoralWiki:Free_webinar_Feb27:_Introduction_to_Making_Music_Remotely_Using_Jamulus&diff=1286187
ChoralWiki:Free webinar Feb27: Introduction to Making Music Remotely Using Jamulus
2021-02-24T06:06:42Z
<p>Vaarky: refine wording about advance preparation</p>
<hr />
<div>===Free Webinar Feb27 hosted by CPDL: Introduction to Making Music Remotely Using Jamulus===<br />
<br />
The Choral Public Domain Library (CPDL) presents an introduction to using the Jamulus software for near real-time singing. Jamulus is a software package that allows musicians in different locations to make music simultaneously as an ensemble.<br />
<br />
We will cover an introduction to Jamulus, a comparison with other leading solutions (JackTrip Virtual Studio, Soundjack), tips from rehearsing a choir and hosting a sing-along via Jamulus, and have an opportunity for Q+A with our panel of speakers. We will also have a Jamulus server configured to allow a limited number of spots for people to try it out in a small group to see how the latency feels for making music together. The webinar will be held via Zoom; advance RSVP required via the link below.<br />
<br />
'''When:''' February 27, 2021<br><br />
&nbsp; 1pm EST (New York, USA)<br />
&nbsp; 10am PST (San Francisco, USA)<br />
&nbsp; 19h CET (Paris, France)<br />
'''RSVP:''' required via<br />
[https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSc6XHD4Fdys8ocjwy637MuKyHXQ6j6OkGokUWUD92wuxpIZyw/viewform this link]<br />
<br />
'''Speakers:'''<br />
<br />
&nbsp; &bull; Nick Weininger (singer, International Orange Chorale of San Francisco; composer; software engineering consultant).<br />
&nbsp; &bull; Jace Wittig (Assoc. Artistic Director at Cantabile Youth Singers of Silicon Valley; Founder/Music Director for Gaude, Inc.; and former Interim Music Director and singer, Chanticleer).<br />
&nbsp; &bull; Ronald Cohen (Board member and singer, Slavyanka; singer, Tactus)<br />
<br />
If you wish to try the Jamulus server that we will have available at the end of the workshop, you will need to prepare in advance to run the desktop software and connect to the Jamulus computer:<br />
<br />
&nbsp; &bull; Install the Jamulus client software in advance (available at no cost via [https://Jamulus.io https://Jamulus.io] for Mac or Windows, plus information for those running Linux).<br />
&nbsp; &bull; A physical, wired connection (such as ethernet) from your computer to your router or modem and simialarly a wired connection from the router or modem to the Internet. Wireless connections aren't fast enough for the Jamulus computer to properly keep all participants in sync with each other.<br />
&nbsp; &bull; Non-wireless earbuds or headset, with built-in microphone or external microphone.<br />
<br />
<br />
[[Category:2021-02-14]]<br />
[[Category:CPDL News| 2021-02-14]]</div>
Vaarky
https://www.cpdl.org/wiki/index.php?title=ChoralWiki:Free_webinar_Feb27:_Introduction_to_Making_Music_Remotely_Using_Jamulus&diff=1286053
ChoralWiki:Free webinar Feb27: Introduction to Making Music Remotely Using Jamulus
2021-02-23T05:58:56Z
<p>Vaarky: add Linux reference</p>
<hr />
<div>===Free Webinar Feb27 hosted by CPDL: Introduction to Making Music Remotely Using Jamulus===<br />
<br />
The Choral Public Domain Library (CPDL) presents an introduction to using the Jamulus software for near real-time singing. Jamulus is a software package that allows musicians in different locations to make music simultaneously as an ensemble.<br />
<br />
We will cover an introduction to Jamulus, a comparison with other leading solutions (JackTrip Virtual Studio, Soundjack), tips from rehearsing a choir and hosting a sing-along via Jamulus, and have an opportunity for Q+A with our panel of speakers. We will also have a Jamulus server configured to allow a limited number of spots for people to try it out in a small group to see how the latency feels for making music together. The webinar will be held via Zoom; advance RSVP required via the link below.<br />
<br />
'''When:''' February 27, 2021<br><br />
&nbsp; 1pm EST (New York, USA)<br />
&nbsp; 10am PST (San Francisco, USA)<br />
&nbsp; 19h CET (Paris, France)<br />
'''RSVP:''' required via<br />
[https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSc6XHD4Fdys8ocjwy637MuKyHXQ6j6OkGokUWUD92wuxpIZyw/viewform this link]<br />
<br />
'''Speakers:'''<br />
<br />
&nbsp; &bull; Nick Weininger (singer, International Orange Chorale of San Francisco; composer; software engineering consultant).<br />
&nbsp; &bull; Jace Wittig (Assoc. Artistic Director at Cantabile Youth Singers of Silicon Valley; Founder/Music Director for Gaude, Inc.; and former Interim Music Director and singer, Chanticleer).<br />
&nbsp; &bull; Ronald Cohen (Board member and singer, Slavyanka; singer, Tactus)<br />
<br />
If you wish to try the server at the end of the workshop, you will need to prepare in advance:<br />
<br />
&nbsp; &bull; Install the Jamulus client software in advance (available at no cost via [https://Jamulus.io https://Jamulus.io] for Mac or Windows, plus information for those running Linux).<br />
&nbsp; &bull; Have a wired Internet connection (using an ethernet cable, for example; no phone or other wireless connections).<br />
&nbsp; &bull; Have non-wireless earbuds or headset, with built-in microphone or external microphone.<br />
<br />
<br />
[[Category:2021-02-14]]<br />
[[Category:CPDL News| 2021-02-14]]</div>
Vaarky
https://www.cpdl.org/wiki/index.php?title=ChoralWiki:Free_webinar_Feb27:_Introduction_to_Making_Music_Remotely_Using_Jamulus&diff=1286051
ChoralWiki:Free webinar Feb27: Introduction to Making Music Remotely Using Jamulus
2021-02-23T05:46:23Z
<p>Vaarky: make jamulus.io clickable</p>
<hr />
<div>===Free Webinar Feb27 hosted by CPDL: Introduction to Making Music Remotely Using Jamulus===<br />
<br />
The Choral Public Domain Library (CPDL) presents an introduction to using the Jamulus software for near real-time singing. Jamulus is a software package that allows musicians in different locations to make music simultaneously as an ensemble.<br />
<br />
We will cover an introduction to Jamulus, a comparison with other leading solutions (JackTrip Virtual Studio, Soundjack), tips from rehearsing a choir and hosting a sing-along via Jamulus, and have an opportunity for Q+A with our panel of speakers. We will also have a Jamulus server configured to allow a limited number of spots for people to try it out in a small group to see how the latency feels for making music together. The webinar will be held via Zoom; advance RSVP required via the link below.<br />
<br />
'''When:''' February 27, 2021<br><br />
&nbsp; 1pm EST (New York, USA)<br />
&nbsp; 10am PST (San Francisco, USA)<br />
&nbsp; 19h CET (Paris, France)<br />
'''RSVP:''' required via<br />
[https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSc6XHD4Fdys8ocjwy637MuKyHXQ6j6OkGokUWUD92wuxpIZyw/viewform this link]<br />
<br />
'''Speakers:'''<br />
<br />
&nbsp; &bull; Nick Weininger (singer, International Orange Chorale of San Francisco; composer; software engineering consultant).<br />
&nbsp; &bull; Jace Wittig (Assoc. Artistic Director at Cantabile Youth Singers of Silicon Valley; Founder/Music Director for Gaude, Inc.; and former Interim Music Director and singer, Chanticleer).<br />
&nbsp; &bull; Ronald Cohen (Board member and singer, Slavyanka; singer, Tactus)<br />
<br />
If you wish to try the server at the end of the workshop, you will need to prepare in advance:<br />
<br />
&nbsp; &bull; Install the Jamulus client software in advance (available at no cost via [https://Jamulus.io https://Jamulus.io] for Mac or Windows).<br />
&nbsp; &bull; Have a wired Internet connection (using an ethernet cable, for example; no phone or other wireless connections).<br />
&nbsp; &bull; Have non-wireless earbuds or headset, with built-in microphone or external microphone.<br />
<br />
<br />
[[Category:2021-02-14]]<br />
[[Category:CPDL News| 2021-02-14]]</div>
Vaarky
https://www.cpdl.org/wiki/index.php?title=ChoralWiki:Free_webinar_Feb27:_Introduction_to_Making_Music_Remotely_Using_Jamulus&diff=1286050
ChoralWiki:Free webinar Feb27: Introduction to Making Music Remotely Using Jamulus
2021-02-23T04:45:05Z
<p>Vaarky: add Slavyanka for Ron</p>
<hr />
<div>===Free Webinar Feb27 hosted by CPDL: Introduction to Making Music Remotely Using Jamulus===<br />
<br />
The Choral Public Domain Library (CPDL) presents an introduction to using the Jamulus software for near real-time singing. Jamulus is a software package that allows musicians in different locations to make music simultaneously as an ensemble.<br />
<br />
We will cover an introduction to Jamulus, a comparison with other leading solutions (JackTrip Virtual Studio, Soundjack), lessons from rehearsing a choir and hosting a sing-along via Jamulus, and have an opportunity for Q+A with our panel of speakers. We will also have a Jamulus server configured to allow a limited number of spots for people to try it out in a small group to see how the latency feels for making music together. The webinar will be held via Zoom; advance RSVP required via the link below.<br />
<br />
'''When:''' February 27, 2021<br><br />
&nbsp; 1pm EST (New York, USA)<br />
&nbsp; 10am PST (San Francisco, USA)<br />
&nbsp; 19h CET (Paris, France)<br />
'''RSVP:''' required via<br />
[https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSc6XHD4Fdys8ocjwy637MuKyHXQ6j6OkGokUWUD92wuxpIZyw/viewform this link]<br />
<br />
'''Speakers:'''<br />
<br />
&nbsp; &bull; Nick Weininger (singer, International Orange Chorale of San Francisco; composer; software engineering consultant).<br />
&nbsp; &bull; Jace Wittig (Assoc. Artistic Director at Cantabile Youth Singers of Silicon Valley; Founder/Music Director for Gaude, Inc.; and former Interim Music Director and singer, Chanticleer).<br />
&nbsp; &bull; Ronald Cohen (Board member and singer, Slavyanka; singer, Tactus)<br />
<br />
If you wish to try the server at the end of the workshop, you will need to prepare in advance:<br />
<br />
&nbsp; &bull; Install the Jamulus client software in advance (available at no cost via Jamulus.io for Mac or Windows).<br />
&nbsp; &bull; Have a wired Internet connection (using an ethernet cable, for example; no phone or other wireless connections).<br />
&nbsp; &bull; Have non-wireless earbuds or headset, with built-in microphone or external microphone.<br />
<br />
<br />
[[Category:2021-02-14]]<br />
[[Category:CPDL News| 2021-02-14]]</div>
Vaarky
https://www.cpdl.org/wiki/index.php?title=ChoralWiki:Free_webinar:_Introduction_to_Making_Music_Remotely_Using_Jamulus&diff=1283123
ChoralWiki:Free webinar: Introduction to Making Music Remotely Using Jamulus
2021-02-14T23:22:00Z
<p>Vaarky: Vaarky moved page ChoralWiki:Free webinar: Introduction to Making Music Remotely Using Jamulus to ChoralWiki:Free webinar Feb27: Introduction to Making Music Remotely Using Jamulus: adding Feb27 to description</p>
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Vaarky
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ChoralWiki:Free webinar Feb27: Introduction to Making Music Remotely Using Jamulus
2021-02-14T23:21:59Z
<p>Vaarky: Vaarky moved page ChoralWiki:Free webinar: Introduction to Making Music Remotely Using Jamulus to ChoralWiki:Free webinar Feb27: Introduction to Making Music Remotely Using Jamulus: adding Feb27 to description</p>
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<div>'''Free Webinar Feb27 hosted by CPDL: Introduction to Making Music Remotely Using Jamulus'''<br />
<br />
The Choral Public Domain Library (CPDL) presents an introduction to using the Jamulus software for near real-time singing. Jamulus is a software package that allows musicians in different locations to make music simultaneously as an ensemble.<br />
<br />
We will cover an introduction to Jamulus, a comparison with other leading solutions (JackTrip Virtual Studio, Soundjack), lessons from rehearsing a choir and hosting a sing-along via Jamulus, and have an opportunity for Q+A with our panel of speakers. We will also have a Jamulus server configured to allow a limited number of spots for people to try it out in a small group to see how the latency feels for making music together. The webinar will be held via Zoom; advance RSVP required via the link below.<br />
<br />
'''February 27, 2021:'''<br><br />
&nbsp; 1pm EST (New York, USA)<br />
&nbsp; 10am PST (San Francisco, USA)<br />
&nbsp; 7p CET (Paris, France)<br />
'''RSVP required via:'''<br />
[https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSc6XHD4Fdys8ocjwy637MuKyHXQ6j6OkGokUWUD92wuxpIZyw/viewform '''This Link''']<br />
<br />
'''Speakers:'''<br />
<br />
&nbsp; &bull; Nick Weininger (singer, International Orange Chorale of San Francisco; composer; software engineering consultant).<br />
&nbsp; &bull; Jace Wittig (Assoc. Artistic Director at Cantabile Youth Singers of Silicon Valley; Founder/Music Director for Gaude, Inc.; and former Interim Music Director and singer, Chanticleer).<br />
&nbsp; &bull; Ronald Cohen (singer, Tactus)<br />
<br />
If you wish to try the server at the end of the workshop, you will need to prepare in advance:<br />
<br />
&nbsp; &bull; Install the Jamulus client software in advance (available at no cost via Jamulus.io for Mac or Windows).<br />
&nbsp; &bull; Have a wired Internet connection (using an ethernet cable, for example; no phone or other wireless connections).<br />
&nbsp; &bull; Have non-wireless earbuds or headset, with built-in microphone or external microphone.<br />
<br />
<br />
[[Category:2021-02-14]]<br />
[[Category:CPDL News| 2021-02-14]]</div>
Vaarky
https://www.cpdl.org/wiki/index.php?title=ChoralWiki:Free_webinar_Feb27:_Introduction_to_Making_Music_Remotely_Using_Jamulus&diff=1283121
ChoralWiki:Free webinar Feb27: Introduction to Making Music Remotely Using Jamulus
2021-02-14T23:20:21Z
<p>Vaarky: add Feb27 to descr</p>
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<div>'''Free Webinar Feb27 hosted by CPDL: Introduction to Making Music Remotely Using Jamulus'''<br />
<br />
The Choral Public Domain Library (CPDL) presents an introduction to using the Jamulus software for near real-time singing. Jamulus is a software package that allows musicians in different locations to make music simultaneously as an ensemble.<br />
<br />
We will cover an introduction to Jamulus, a comparison with other leading solutions (JackTrip Virtual Studio, Soundjack), lessons from rehearsing a choir and hosting a sing-along via Jamulus, and have an opportunity for Q+A with our panel of speakers. We will also have a Jamulus server configured to allow a limited number of spots for people to try it out in a small group to see how the latency feels for making music together. The webinar will be held via Zoom; advance RSVP required via the link below.<br />
<br />
'''February 27, 2021:'''<br><br />
&nbsp; 1pm EST (New York, USA)<br />
&nbsp; 10am PST (San Francisco, USA)<br />
&nbsp; 7p CET (Paris, France)<br />
'''RSVP required via:'''<br />
[https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSc6XHD4Fdys8ocjwy637MuKyHXQ6j6OkGokUWUD92wuxpIZyw/viewform '''This Link''']<br />
<br />
'''Speakers:'''<br />
<br />
&nbsp; &bull; Nick Weininger (singer, International Orange Chorale of San Francisco; composer; software engineering consultant).<br />
&nbsp; &bull; Jace Wittig (Assoc. Artistic Director at Cantabile Youth Singers of Silicon Valley; Founder/Music Director for Gaude, Inc.; and former Interim Music Director and singer, Chanticleer).<br />
&nbsp; &bull; Ronald Cohen (singer, Tactus)<br />
<br />
If you wish to try the server at the end of the workshop, you will need to prepare in advance:<br />
<br />
&nbsp; &bull; Install the Jamulus client software in advance (available at no cost via Jamulus.io for Mac or Windows).<br />
&nbsp; &bull; Have a wired Internet connection (using an ethernet cable, for example; no phone or other wireless connections).<br />
&nbsp; &bull; Have non-wireless earbuds or headset, with built-in microphone or external microphone.<br />
<br />
<br />
[[Category:2021-02-14]]<br />
[[Category:CPDL News| 2021-02-14]]</div>
Vaarky
https://www.cpdl.org/wiki/index.php?title=Help:What%27s_it_all_about%3F&diff=1263348
Help:What's it all about?
2020-12-07T19:19:46Z
<p>Vaarky: Change phrasing of If you would like to make a donation /* Is it really free? Can I donate? */</p>
<hr />
<div>__TOC__<br />
==What is CPDL?==<br />
The Choral Public Domain Library (CPDL), is an Internet-based free sheet music website which specializes in choral music.<br />
<br />
Begun in December 1998, CPDL is one of the world's largest free sheet music sites. The goal of CPDL is to host a large collection of music scores and other supporting files (such as midi or other sound files) which can be freely downloaded and used. Most of the scores on CPDL are modern editions based on older works whose copyright has lapsed (or which are otherwise in the public domain), but some scores are newly composed and offered for download by the composer.<br />
<br />
The primary goals of CPDL are:<br />
* To make vocal sheet music available for free.<br />
* To create a website for public domain music that includes only legally downloadable scores (we operate under United States law).<br />
* To allow development of a viable collaborative model for sheet music distribution.<br />
* To publish scores that are not otherwise commercially viable.<br />
* To create a website that catalogs a large number of other free sheet music websites.<br />
* To encourage (through the CPDL Bulletin Boards) sharing between lovers of vocal music.<br />
<br />
As well as scores, you can use CPDL to find texts and lyrics, translations, and information about composers - all available for use under a license such as the [[ChoralWiki:CPDL|CPDL license]].<br />
<br />
In August 2005, CPDL was ported to a wiki system. The following page details the transition:<br />
*[[ChoralWiki:CPDL-ChoralWiki]]<br />
<br />
==How long has CPDL been around?==<br />
CPDL has been around since December 1998, when it was first created with a grand total of six scores available for download. It now boasts over 9 thousand individual scores.<br />
<br />
==Who runs the site?==<br />
Until August of 2008, CPDL was managed by Rafael Ornes, but has been transitioned to a new management team to manage CPDL as a 501(c)(3) corporation. CPDL is based in the US, but has board members in other countries as well.<br />
<br />
<br />
In addition to this group of individuals, CPDL receives help from a variety of volunteers, some with [[ChoralWiki:Administrators|Administrator]] privileges on the system, and others who help with miscellaneous categorization of works and other tasks without Administrator level access enabled on their accounts.<br />
<br />
Most of the scores and information pages have been contributed by ordinary users. If you spot a mistake or would like to contribute something, you can easily edit any page. In this way, the site is improved gradually by the contributions of many users.<br />
<br />
* [[Help:Contents#How can I contribute?|Find out how to contribute]]<br />
* [{{MediaWiki:Discussions-url}} Visit the CPDL forums] -- where users meet to discuss the site and its contents<br />
* [[ChoralWiki:Volunteers|View the volunteers page]] -- where current and ongoing projects are posted<br />
<br />
==Is it really free? Can I donate? ==<br />
Yes, it's really free. CPDL is a volunteer project and is not being done for profit (CPDL is a 501(c)(3) non-profit under US law.) All work on the site is done by volunteers, many of whom are ordinary users like yourself. Currently, CPDL is generously sponsored by donations from individuals and also by our corporate Sponsors and Affiliate(s) listed on the left side of our web pages. There are some costs involved in running the site and donations are very welcome. If you would like to make a contribution, click the [[ChoralWiki:Site support|Donations]] link here or in the navigation menu on the left.<br />
<br />
==How many scores are there?==<br />
CPDL indexes over 10,000 different works combining the efforts of over 500 contributors. Take a look at the [[Main Page]] to see newly added editions.<br />
<br />
==Can I make copies for my choir?==<br />
Yes, scores on CPDL are generally available for copying and use by choirs. In most cases there's no restriction on distributing, duplicating, or performing the music indexed here, and some score may allow additional uses as well. Check the specific type of license indicated on the specific edition you wish to use.<br />
<br />
Some important things to note:<br />
* In some cases, the composer may request that you contact him or her if you decide to perform his or her work.<br />
* Some scores which are linked from CPDL, but which actually reside on other affiliated websites, may have further restrictions on use. Check the individual copyright statements on affiliated websites to find out what restrictions apply in each case.<br />
* In some situations, a work may be public domain under the laws of the US but may not yet have lapsed into the public domain under the laws of a user's own country. We recommend that users familiarize themselves with the general copyright laws of their own country.<br />
<br />
==What else can I do with CPDL editions?==<br />
Please check the type of copyright license on any specific edition you wish to use. For editions under the [[ChoralWiki:CPDL|CPDL type of license]], you can also generally make free use of editions hosted on CPDL including to make another edition (for example, transposing the piece); Your new edition must properly credit the original work and be released under the same type of licensing (e.g. the [[ChoralWiki:CPDL|CPDL License]]. Always check the copyright instructions related to the specific score. We encourage posting your new edition if you feel others may benefit from it.<br />
<br />
==Thanks and Acknowledgements==<br />
CPDL would like to thank all the people and organizations who have supported our site.<br />
* The many [[ChoralWiki:CPDL_Editors|editors]] who have contributed their scores for public benefit.<br />
* The volunteers who have made [[Special:Contributions/|edits]] to wiki pages, served as [[Administrators]] or otherwise helped with maintenance of the site, as well as the community members who answered questions (and posted them) in the [http://forums.cpdl.org/phpBB3/ Forums], etc.<br />
* The [[Donations|donors]] who have contributed directly to CPDL, as well as the users who made purchases through our affiliate arrangement with [http://www.sheetmusicplus.com/?aff_id=154015 SheetMusicPlus.com].<br />
* Our corporate Sponsors, past and present: [http://www.cloudhymnal.org Cloudhymnal]; [http://www.mymusicfolders.co MyMusicFolders.com]; [http://www.choralia.net Choralia]; [https://www.singerhood.com/en-GB?from=cpdl Singerhood/The Choral App]; [http://www.choirprodigy.com/ Choir Prodigy]; [https://knowledgerocks.com/ Knowledge Rocks]; [https://www.note-perfect.com/ Note Perfect].<br />
* [http://www.avid.com/sibelius Avid Technology, Inc.], for providing CPDL a Sibelius 7 software license to help with CPDL's format conversion and other tasks in administering editions that site users contributed in Sibelius format only.<br />
* [[Susan_Partlan|Susan Partlan]] and [[User:Charles_H._Giffen|Chuck Giffen]] for their work on the new CPDL [http://www.cpdl.org/wiki/images/2/22/Toplogo1.png logo].<br />
* Our fans on Facebook who have "Liked" our [https://www.facebook.com/CPDL.org Facebook page].<br />
<br />
{{Help}}</div>
Vaarky
https://www.cpdl.org/wiki/index.php?title=Help:What%27s_it_all_about%3F&diff=1263347
Help:What's it all about?
2020-12-07T19:18:59Z
<p>Vaarky: added Can I donate? to section heading /* Is it really free? */</p>
<hr />
<div>__TOC__<br />
==What is CPDL?==<br />
The Choral Public Domain Library (CPDL), is an Internet-based free sheet music website which specializes in choral music.<br />
<br />
Begun in December 1998, CPDL is one of the world's largest free sheet music sites. The goal of CPDL is to host a large collection of music scores and other supporting files (such as midi or other sound files) which can be freely downloaded and used. Most of the scores on CPDL are modern editions based on older works whose copyright has lapsed (or which are otherwise in the public domain), but some scores are newly composed and offered for download by the composer.<br />
<br />
The primary goals of CPDL are:<br />
* To make vocal sheet music available for free.<br />
* To create a website for public domain music that includes only legally downloadable scores (we operate under United States law).<br />
* To allow development of a viable collaborative model for sheet music distribution.<br />
* To publish scores that are not otherwise commercially viable.<br />
* To create a website that catalogs a large number of other free sheet music websites.<br />
* To encourage (through the CPDL Bulletin Boards) sharing between lovers of vocal music.<br />
<br />
As well as scores, you can use CPDL to find texts and lyrics, translations, and information about composers - all available for use under a license such as the [[ChoralWiki:CPDL|CPDL license]].<br />
<br />
In August 2005, CPDL was ported to a wiki system. The following page details the transition:<br />
*[[ChoralWiki:CPDL-ChoralWiki]]<br />
<br />
==How long has CPDL been around?==<br />
CPDL has been around since December 1998, when it was first created with a grand total of six scores available for download. It now boasts over 9 thousand individual scores.<br />
<br />
==Who runs the site?==<br />
Until August of 2008, CPDL was managed by Rafael Ornes, but has been transitioned to a new management team to manage CPDL as a 501(c)(3) corporation. CPDL is based in the US, but has board members in other countries as well.<br />
<br />
<br />
In addition to this group of individuals, CPDL receives help from a variety of volunteers, some with [[ChoralWiki:Administrators|Administrator]] privileges on the system, and others who help with miscellaneous categorization of works and other tasks without Administrator level access enabled on their accounts.<br />
<br />
Most of the scores and information pages have been contributed by ordinary users. If you spot a mistake or would like to contribute something, you can easily edit any page. In this way, the site is improved gradually by the contributions of many users.<br />
<br />
* [[Help:Contents#How can I contribute?|Find out how to contribute]]<br />
* [{{MediaWiki:Discussions-url}} Visit the CPDL forums] -- where users meet to discuss the site and its contents<br />
* [[ChoralWiki:Volunteers|View the volunteers page]] -- where current and ongoing projects are posted<br />
<br />
==Is it really free? Can I donate? ==<br />
Yes, it's really free. CPDL is a volunteer project and is not being done for profit (CPDL is a 501(c)(3) non-profit under US law.) All work on the site is done by volunteers, many of whom are ordinary users like yourself. Currently, CPDL is generously sponsored by donations from individuals and also by our corporate Sponsors and Affiliate(s) listed on the left side of our web pages. There are some costs involved in running the site and donations are very welcome. To make a contribution, click the [[ChoralWiki:Site support|Donations]] link here or in the navigation menu on the left.<br />
<br />
==How many scores are there?==<br />
CPDL indexes over 10,000 different works combining the efforts of over 500 contributors. Take a look at the [[Main Page]] to see newly added editions.<br />
<br />
==Can I make copies for my choir?==<br />
Yes, scores on CPDL are generally available for copying and use by choirs. In most cases there's no restriction on distributing, duplicating, or performing the music indexed here, and some score may allow additional uses as well. Check the specific type of license indicated on the specific edition you wish to use.<br />
<br />
Some important things to note:<br />
* In some cases, the composer may request that you contact him or her if you decide to perform his or her work.<br />
* Some scores which are linked from CPDL, but which actually reside on other affiliated websites, may have further restrictions on use. Check the individual copyright statements on affiliated websites to find out what restrictions apply in each case.<br />
* In some situations, a work may be public domain under the laws of the US but may not yet have lapsed into the public domain under the laws of a user's own country. We recommend that users familiarize themselves with the general copyright laws of their own country.<br />
<br />
==What else can I do with CPDL editions?==<br />
Please check the type of copyright license on any specific edition you wish to use. For editions under the [[ChoralWiki:CPDL|CPDL type of license]], you can also generally make free use of editions hosted on CPDL including to make another edition (for example, transposing the piece); Your new edition must properly credit the original work and be released under the same type of licensing (e.g. the [[ChoralWiki:CPDL|CPDL License]]. Always check the copyright instructions related to the specific score. We encourage posting your new edition if you feel others may benefit from it.<br />
<br />
==Thanks and Acknowledgements==<br />
CPDL would like to thank all the people and organizations who have supported our site.<br />
* The many [[ChoralWiki:CPDL_Editors|editors]] who have contributed their scores for public benefit.<br />
* The volunteers who have made [[Special:Contributions/|edits]] to wiki pages, served as [[Administrators]] or otherwise helped with maintenance of the site, as well as the community members who answered questions (and posted them) in the [http://forums.cpdl.org/phpBB3/ Forums], etc.<br />
* The [[Donations|donors]] who have contributed directly to CPDL, as well as the users who made purchases through our affiliate arrangement with [http://www.sheetmusicplus.com/?aff_id=154015 SheetMusicPlus.com].<br />
* Our corporate Sponsors, past and present: [http://www.cloudhymnal.org Cloudhymnal]; [http://www.mymusicfolders.co MyMusicFolders.com]; [http://www.choralia.net Choralia]; [https://www.singerhood.com/en-GB?from=cpdl Singerhood/The Choral App]; [http://www.choirprodigy.com/ Choir Prodigy]; [https://knowledgerocks.com/ Knowledge Rocks]; [https://www.note-perfect.com/ Note Perfect].<br />
* [http://www.avid.com/sibelius Avid Technology, Inc.], for providing CPDL a Sibelius 7 software license to help with CPDL's format conversion and other tasks in administering editions that site users contributed in Sibelius format only.<br />
* [[Susan_Partlan|Susan Partlan]] and [[User:Charles_H._Giffen|Chuck Giffen]] for their work on the new CPDL [http://www.cpdl.org/wiki/images/2/22/Toplogo1.png logo].<br />
* Our fans on Facebook who have "Liked" our [https://www.facebook.com/CPDL.org Facebook page].<br />
<br />
{{Help}}</div>
Vaarky
https://www.cpdl.org/wiki/index.php?title=User_talk:Adrianwall&diff=1058465
User talk:Adrianwall
2020-01-07T20:11:59Z
<p>Vaarky: /* wrong file uploaded for Sheppard's Libera now, Salva nos II ? */</p>
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<div>== wrong file uploaded for Sheppard's Libera now, Salva nos II ? ==<br />
Hi, Adrian--is the file you attached at [[Libera nos, salva nos II (John_Sheppard)]] the one you intended? It points to the same PDF as [[Libera nos, salva_nos I (John_Sheppard)]]. They both point to this<br />
[https://www.cpdl.org/wiki/images/1/13/Shep-lib.pdf PDF]. Based on the voicing you indicated for II, AATTBarBarB, you may have uploaded a different file than you intended for it. Can you please check? Thanks. [[User:Vaarky|Vaarky]] ([[User talk:Vaarky|talk]]) 20:11, 7 January 2020 (UTC)<br />
<br />
<br />
== New editions ==<br />
<br />
Hi Adrian! When posting new editions, please stick to the code you receive via email instead of creating "Edition" pages, as these are still in experimental phase and subject to many changes yet. Thank you! —[[User:Carlos|Carlos]] ([[User talk:Carlos|talk]]) 09:39, 20 October 2012 (CDT)<br />
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== Obfuscating title==<br />
Wotcher. Thanks for correcting the duplication of the Tallis Mag & Nunc. I had just realised there was another edition under a specious title on CPDL. What was your reasoning for perpetuating the "Short service" nomenclature error? Not only is it a twentieth century disambiguation confection, it ignores the more prevalent form of evening canticles collective title, and gives inferior results in searches (IM'UO).[[User:Cjshawcj|Cjshawcj]] ([[User talk:Cjshawcj|talk]]) 15:20, 31 December 2012 (UTC)<br />
<br />
== Voicing of [[Lumen ad revelationem gentium (Giovanni Pierluigi da Palestrina)]] ==<br />
<br />
Hi Adrian,<br />
<br />
I don't agree that any voice is meant to be tacit, but we can continue at [[Talk:Lumen ad revelationem gentium (Giovanni Pierluigi da Palestrina)]] if you like. [[User:Richard Mix|Richard Mix]] ([[User talk:Richard Mix|talk]]) 08:16, 12 April 2016 (UTC)</div>
Vaarky
https://www.cpdl.org/wiki/index.php?title=User:Vaarky&diff=1058461
User:Vaarky
2020-01-07T19:57:49Z
<p>Vaarky: /* Favorite Pieces/Composers of Late */ add Kellyk & Rasar</p>
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<div>==General Information==<br />
<br />
I like sight-singing Renaissance motets, as well as singing pretty much any other music.<br />
<br />
==Contact Information==<br />
<br />
For ordinary topics related to CPDL, the best way to request assistance is via the CPDL [http://forums.cpdl.org/phpBB3 forums], where multiple site admins and other knowledgeable users can see it and respond. The forums are a separate area and require that users have or create a separate login ID and password (it does not automatically recognize login/password combinations from the CPDL wiki).<br />
<br />
To contact me personally, you can send me [[Special:EmailUser/Vaarky|e-mail]] (available to registered users only).<br />
<!--<br />
post to [{{fullurl:User talk:Vaarky|action=edit&section=new}} '''my talk page'''],<br />
mail: http://www.cpdl.eu/wiki/index.php/Special:EmailUser/Vaarky<br />
--><br />
<br />
==If You're in the SF Bay Area==<br />
<br />
I organize occasional get-togethers for 4-8 singers to do advanced Ren motet sight-singing for fun. These are aimed at singers who can read a Renaissance motet correctly on the first try (alone on their part) without sounding like they're searching for the notes or getting lost; occasional fleeting errors are only human. We generally sing each piece only once. Singers are usually at the pseudo-professional or professional level. Each date is a separate one-time commitment.<br />
<br />
Please e-mail me via the e-mail link above and tell me about your sight-singing experience/interests if you'd like to find out more.<br />
<br />
<!--<br />
==Preparing Editions==<br />
<br />
I've started using mup from arkkra.com to transcribe editions:<br />
<br />
* Byrd, Alleluia, Ascendit Deus (SSATB)<br />
* Sheppard, Verbum Caro (SATTBB)<br />
* Josquin, Vultum Tuum (SATB)<br />
* Wert, Saule, Saule (8v)<br />
* Victoria, Vadam, et Circuibo (SSATTB)<br />
<br />
I'm eternally in the proofing stages.<br />
--><br />
<br />
==Favorite Pieces/Composers of Late==<br />
<br />
* William Mundy: esp. everything in the Latin Antiphons and Psalms book (ed. Frank Llewellyn Harrison) -- available via EECM.net<br />
* Rasar, Missa Christe Jesu<br />
* Kellyk, Gaude Flore Virginali<br />
* Regis, Lux Solempsis<br />
* Senfl Ave Maria (SSATTB) and Mater Digna<br />
* White, Portio Mea<br />
* Lambe, Nesciens Mater and most Eton Choirbook stuff<br />
* Manchicourt<br />
* Sheppard<br />
* Cardoso, Aquam and also Et Egressus<br />
* Palestrina, Improperium Expectavit<br />
* Josquin, Tulerunt Dominum<br />
* Tallis, Loquebantur<br />
* Compere, Gaude Mater<br />
* Ashewell, M. Ave Maria<br />
* Finck, Quorum Praecepto Subditur<br />
* Willaert, Inviolata<br />
* Victoria, Vadam et Circuibo<br />
<br />
<!--* theme: flight<br><br />
** The Campers at Kitty Hawk, by Michael Dellaira (www.michaeldellaira.com)<br><br />
** Leonardo Dreams of His Flying Machine, by Eric Whitacre<br />
* Ennio Morricone music<br />
** The Good, The Bad and the Ugly: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZKlxyoPNaFI<br />
** The Ecstacy of Gold: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qQ3u3fTG70Q<br />
** Nella Fantasia by Celtic Woman<br />
* Dvorak New World Symphony<br />
--></div>
Vaarky
https://www.cpdl.org/wiki/index.php?title=User:Vaarky&diff=1058460
User:Vaarky
2020-01-07T19:56:03Z
<p>Vaarky: /* If You're in the SF Bay Area */ remove e-mail address and tell people to use the e-mail method above</p>
<hr />
<div>==General Information==<br />
<br />
I like sight-singing Renaissance motets, as well as singing pretty much any other music.<br />
<br />
==Contact Information==<br />
<br />
For ordinary topics related to CPDL, the best way to request assistance is via the CPDL [http://forums.cpdl.org/phpBB3 forums], where multiple site admins and other knowledgeable users can see it and respond. The forums are a separate area and require that users have or create a separate login ID and password (it does not automatically recognize login/password combinations from the CPDL wiki).<br />
<br />
To contact me personally, you can send me [[Special:EmailUser/Vaarky|e-mail]] (available to registered users only).<br />
<!--<br />
post to [{{fullurl:User talk:Vaarky|action=edit&section=new}} '''my talk page'''],<br />
mail: http://www.cpdl.eu/wiki/index.php/Special:EmailUser/Vaarky<br />
--><br />
<br />
==If You're in the SF Bay Area==<br />
<br />
I organize occasional get-togethers for 4-8 singers to do advanced Ren motet sight-singing for fun. These are aimed at singers who can read a Renaissance motet correctly on the first try (alone on their part) without sounding like they're searching for the notes or getting lost; occasional fleeting errors are only human. We generally sing each piece only once. Singers are usually at the pseudo-professional or professional level. Each date is a separate one-time commitment.<br />
<br />
Please e-mail me via the e-mail link above and tell me about your sight-singing experience/interests if you'd like to find out more.<br />
<br />
<!--<br />
==Preparing Editions==<br />
<br />
I've started using mup from arkkra.com to transcribe editions:<br />
<br />
* Byrd, Alleluia, Ascendit Deus (SSATB)<br />
* Sheppard, Verbum Caro (SATTBB)<br />
* Josquin, Vultum Tuum (SATB)<br />
* Wert, Saule, Saule (8v)<br />
* Victoria, Vadam, et Circuibo (SSATTB)<br />
<br />
I'm eternally in the proofing stages.<br />
--><br />
<br />
==Favorite Pieces/Composers of Late==<br />
<br />
* William Mundy: esp. everything in the Latin Antiphons and Psalms book (ed. Frank Llewellyn Harrison) -- available via EECM.net<br />
* Regis, Lux Solempsis<br />
* Senfl Ave Maria (SSATTB) and Mater Digna<br />
* White, Portio Mea<br />
* Lambe, Nesciens Mater and most Eton Choirbook stuff<br />
* Manchicourt<br />
* Sheppard<br />
* Cardoso, Aquam and also Et Egressus<br />
* Palestrina, Improperium Expectavit<br />
* Josquin, Tulerunt Dominum<br />
* Tallis, Loquebantur<br />
* Compere, Gaude Mater<br />
* Ashewell, M. Ave Maria<br />
* Finck, Quorum Praecepto Subditur<br />
* Willaert, Inviolata<br />
* Victoria, Vadam et Circuibo<br />
<br />
<!--* theme: flight<br><br />
** The Campers at Kitty Hawk, by Michael Dellaira (www.michaeldellaira.com)<br><br />
** Leonardo Dreams of His Flying Machine, by Eric Whitacre<br />
* Ennio Morricone music<br />
** The Good, The Bad and the Ugly: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZKlxyoPNaFI<br />
** The Ecstacy of Gold: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qQ3u3fTG70Q<br />
** Nella Fantasia by Celtic Woman<br />
* Dvorak New World Symphony<br />
--></div>
Vaarky
https://www.cpdl.org/wiki/index.php?title=User:Vaarky&diff=1058458
User:Vaarky
2020-01-07T19:49:49Z
<p>Vaarky: /* If You're in the SF Bay Area */ change e-mail address</p>
<hr />
<div>==General Information==<br />
<br />
I like sight-singing Renaissance motets, as well as singing pretty much any other music.<br />
<br />
==Contact Information==<br />
<br />
For ordinary topics related to CPDL, the best way to request assistance is via the CPDL [http://forums.cpdl.org/phpBB3 forums], where multiple site admins and other knowledgeable users can see it and respond. The forums are a separate area and require that users have or create a separate login ID and password (it does not automatically recognize login/password combinations from the CPDL wiki).<br />
<br />
To contact me personally, you can send me [[Special:EmailUser/Vaarky|e-mail]] (available to registered users only).<br />
<!--<br />
post to [{{fullurl:User talk:Vaarky|action=edit&section=new}} '''my talk page'''],<br />
mail: http://www.cpdl.eu/wiki/index.php/Special:EmailUser/Vaarky<br />
--><br />
<br />
==If You're in the SF Bay Area==<br />
<br />
I organize occasional get-togethers for 4-8 singers to do advanced Ren motet sight-singing for fun. These are aimed at singers who can read a Renaissance motet correctly on the first try (alone on their part) without sounding like they're searching for the notes or getting lost; occasional fleeting errors are only human. We generally sing each piece only once. Singers are usually at the pseudo-professional or professional level. Each date is a separate one-time commitment.<br />
<br />
E-mail cpdl-fan (at) motets.org and tell me about your sight-singing experience/interests if you'd like to find out more.<br />
<br />
<!--<br />
==Preparing Editions==<br />
<br />
I've started using mup from arkkra.com to transcribe editions:<br />
<br />
* Byrd, Alleluia, Ascendit Deus (SSATB)<br />
* Sheppard, Verbum Caro (SATTBB)<br />
* Josquin, Vultum Tuum (SATB)<br />
* Wert, Saule, Saule (8v)<br />
* Victoria, Vadam, et Circuibo (SSATTB)<br />
<br />
I'm eternally in the proofing stages.<br />
--><br />
<br />
==Favorite Pieces/Composers of Late==<br />
<br />
* William Mundy: esp. everything in the Latin Antiphons and Psalms book (ed. Frank Llewellyn Harrison) -- available via EECM.net<br />
* Regis, Lux Solempsis<br />
* Senfl Ave Maria (SSATTB) and Mater Digna<br />
* White, Portio Mea<br />
* Lambe, Nesciens Mater and most Eton Choirbook stuff<br />
* Manchicourt<br />
* Sheppard<br />
* Cardoso, Aquam and also Et Egressus<br />
* Palestrina, Improperium Expectavit<br />
* Josquin, Tulerunt Dominum<br />
* Tallis, Loquebantur<br />
* Compere, Gaude Mater<br />
* Ashewell, M. Ave Maria<br />
* Finck, Quorum Praecepto Subditur<br />
* Willaert, Inviolata<br />
* Victoria, Vadam et Circuibo<br />
<br />
<!--* theme: flight<br><br />
** The Campers at Kitty Hawk, by Michael Dellaira (www.michaeldellaira.com)<br><br />
** Leonardo Dreams of His Flying Machine, by Eric Whitacre<br />
* Ennio Morricone music<br />
** The Good, The Bad and the Ugly: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZKlxyoPNaFI<br />
** The Ecstacy of Gold: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qQ3u3fTG70Q<br />
** Nella Fantasia by Celtic Woman<br />
* Dvorak New World Symphony<br />
--></div>
Vaarky
https://www.cpdl.org/wiki/index.php?title=Miserere_mei,_o_Deus_(Giovanni_Croce)&diff=1017116
Miserere mei, o Deus (Giovanni Croce)
2019-09-26T17:23:39Z
<p>Vaarky: /* Music files */</p>
<hr />
<div>==Music files==<br />
{{#Legend:}}<br />
*{{CPDLno|27060}} [[Media:Croce, G. Miserere mei, o Deus.pdf|{{pdf}}]] [[Media:Croce,_G._Miserere_mei,_o_Deus.mid|{{mid}}]]<br />
{{Editor|Sabine Cassola|2012-08-31}}{{ScoreInfo|A4|12|152}}{{Copy|CPDL}}<br />
:'''Edition notes:''' No. 4 from "Septem Psalmi poenitentiales sex vocum"<br />
{{ScoreError|Last page, m84, Quinta Vox's first note A should be B natural, confirmed by editor. {{User|Vaarky}} ([[User talk:Vaarky|talk]]) 19:33, 5 March 2014 (UTC)}}<br />
{{ScoreError|m9, voice 2 is missing one beat. [[User:Vaarky|Vaarky]] ([[User talk:Vaarky|talk]]) 17:22, 26 September 2019 (UTC)}}<br />
<br />
==General Information==<br />
'''Title:''' ''Miserere mei, o Deus (Psalm 50)''<br><br />
{{Composer|Giovanni Croce}}<br />
{{Lyricist|Francesco Bembo}}<br />
<br />
{{Voicing|6|SSATTB}}<br><br />
{{Genre|Sacred|Motets}}<br />
{{Language|Latin}}<br />
{{Instruments|A cappella}}<br />
{{Pub|1|1599|in {{NoComp|Septem Psalmi poenitentialis|Giovanni Croce}}|no=4}}<br />
<br />
'''Description:''' <br />
<br />
'''External websites:'''<br />
<br />
==Original text and translations==<br />
{{LinkText|Psalm 51}}<br />
<br />
N.B. This setting's text bears only a passing resemblance to that psalm, the source text having been paraphrased and cast in sonnet form by Francesco Bembo (1544-1699): there is also a contemporary translation of that sonnet in English, even more tenuously linked to a verbatim translation of the source text. <br />
<br />
[[Category:Sheet music]]<br />
[[Category:Renaissance music]]</div>
Vaarky
https://www.cpdl.org/wiki/index.php?title=Miserere_mei,_o_Deus_(Giovanni_Croce)&diff=1017115
Miserere mei, o Deus (Giovanni Croce)
2019-09-26T17:22:37Z
<p>Vaarky: score error m9, voice 2 /* Music files */</p>
<hr />
<div>==Music files==<br />
{{#Legend:}}<br />
*{{CPDLno|27060}} [[Media:Croce, G. Miserere mei, o Deus.pdf|{{pdf}}]] [[Media:Croce,_G._Miserere_mei,_o_Deus.mid|{{mid}}]]<br />
{{Editor|Sabine Cassola|2012-08-31}}{{ScoreInfo|A4|12|152}}{{Copy|CPDL}}<br />
:'''Edition notes:''' No. 4 from "Septem Psalmi poenitentiales sex vocum"<br />
{{ScoreError|Last page, m84, Quinta Vox's first note A should be B natural, confirmed by editor. {{User|Vaarky}} ([[User talk:Vaarky|talk]]) 19:33, 5 March 2014 (UTC)}}<br />
{{ScoreError|Last page, m9, second voice is missing one beat. [[User:Vaarky|Vaarky]] ([[User talk:Vaarky|talk]]) 17:22, 26 September 2019 (UTC)}}<br />
<br />
==General Information==<br />
'''Title:''' ''Miserere mei, o Deus (Psalm 50)''<br><br />
{{Composer|Giovanni Croce}}<br />
{{Lyricist|Francesco Bembo}}<br />
<br />
{{Voicing|6|SSATTB}}<br><br />
{{Genre|Sacred|Motets}}<br />
{{Language|Latin}}<br />
{{Instruments|A cappella}}<br />
{{Pub|1|1599|in {{NoComp|Septem Psalmi poenitentialis|Giovanni Croce}}|no=4}}<br />
<br />
'''Description:''' <br />
<br />
'''External websites:'''<br />
<br />
==Original text and translations==<br />
{{LinkText|Psalm 51}}<br />
<br />
N.B. This setting's text bears only a passing resemblance to that psalm, the source text having been paraphrased and cast in sonnet form by Francesco Bembo (1544-1699): there is also a contemporary translation of that sonnet in English, even more tenuously linked to a verbatim translation of the source text. <br />
<br />
[[Category:Sheet music]]<br />
[[Category:Renaissance music]]</div>
Vaarky
https://www.cpdl.org/wiki/index.php?title=Help:Automated_add_score_process&diff=979762
Help:Automated add score process
2019-05-22T10:11:05Z
<p>Vaarky: make bold /* Step 3: Adding a new edition */</p>
<hr />
<div>==Introduction==<br />
The new, automated add score process, introduced in October 2013, is intended to simplify the process of adding a new score edition to ChoralWiki, especially for those users who are unfamiliar with adding and editing wiki code inside composer and work pages. Using this process, the composer and the work pages are automatically created or updated, without the user being required to do it manually.<br />
<br />
Furthermore, this process allows any registered user (not just the administrators) to refine submissions that the automatic process may not have handled perfectly.<br />
<br />
For example, the list of works on some composer pages is ordered alphabetically by title, while on other composer pages works are grouped into "sacred" and "secular", or into collections. The automatic process cannot accommodate all these alternatives, so it simply places a new work entry at the first place on the list. Users sufficiently familiar with wiki editing should then move the new work entry to the appropriate position on the page.<br />
<br />
Similarly, if a new edition of an existing work is added, a "multiple editions available" label should be added or updated.<br />
<br />
All registered users who are sufficiently familiar with editing wiki pages are encouraged to help refine composer pages and work pages created/amended automatically.<br />
<br />
Please contact the administrators through the [https://forums.cpdl.org CPDL user forums] for any problems or suggestions. Note: the forum does not use the same account as on the main cpdl.org site, so it requires creating an account specificalliy for the forums if you haven't already done so.<br />
<br />
==Step 1: Locating the composer page==<br />
<br />
Click on ''[[:Category:Composers|Composer pages]]'' in the navigation list on the left of the screen, then on the first letter of the composer's surname. If the composer name does not appear on the list, a new composer page will need to be created. To do it, just go to any existing composer page and click on the "Add new work" tab on the top-right part of the page. Then, in the "Add new work" form, replace the "Composer name" and the "Composer's time period" with the name and time period of the new composer. Then go to step 2.<br />
<br />
If the composer already appears in the list of composers, open the composer page and check if the same work is listed already. If it is, click on the work title and go to step 3. Otherwise, click on the "Add new work" tab at the top right of the page. This will open the "Add new work" form, with the "Composer name" and the "Composer's time period" fields already filled in. Now go to step 2.<br />
<br />
==Step 2: Adding a new work==<br />
<br />
Fill in the other fields of the form down to the "Files Section" (excluded) with the relevant information. See the [[Help:Score_submission_guide#Adding_new_edition_information|Score submission guide - Adding new edition information]] for details. Then go to step 4.<br />
<br />
==Step 3: Adding a new edition==<br />
Click on the <b>"Add new edition" tab on the top-right part of the page</b>. This will open the "Add new work" form where some fields (work title, composer name, work genre/subgenre, composer's time period) are filled automatically with the information present already in the work page. Make any manual changes necessary, for example, to voicing.<br />
<br />
==Step 4: Uploading files or entering links to externally hosted files==<br />
If you wish your files (pdf, midi, mp3, etc.) to be stored on the CPDL servers, you will need to upload them. Click on the "Upload now" buttons present on the "Add new work" form. This will open a file upload window that you can use to upload files. See [[Help:Score_submission_guide#Uploading_files|Score submission guide - Uploading files]] for details. The system will try to automatically detect the file types and fill in the appropriate fields of the "Add new work" form accordingly. Please check the data entered, and update them if necessary. You can close the file upload window(s) after all files are uploaded.<br />
<br />
If your files are already stored on external servers, we recommend that you upload them to CPDL anyway, in order to avoid eventual broken links. But if you prefer not to, then please enter the relevant links (full URL beginning with ''http://'') and the applicable details (file type, size, page size, number of pages, etc.).<br />
<br />
==Step 5: Completing and submitting the "Add new work" form==<br />
<br />
Please fill in the remaining fields of the "Add new work" form (notes about the edition, copyright, external web links, your email address - see [[Help:Score_submission_guide#Adding_new_edition_information|Score submission guide - Adding new edition information]] for details) and click on the "Add works data" button at the bottom of the form. The composer page, newly created or amended, according to the work/edition added, will be shown to you in a new window after a few seconds. The "Add new work" form remains open if you need to check any data on it. You can close it if you don't need it any more.<br />
<br />
You will also receive an email summarizing your submission. You can retain a copy of it for your records.<br />
<br />
Contributors who are not familiar with editing wiki pages may stop at this point. All users who are familiar with editing wiki pages are encouraged to perform the next steps also for the contributions of other users.<br />
<br />
==Step 6: Checking and refining the composer page==<br />
<br />
Composer pages created or amended automatically are traced through the category ''[[:Category:Pages_with_recent_additions|Pages with recent additions]]''. Work entries yet to be reviewed and refined are clearly identified on the composer page by a text in italics that reads "''The next work entry has been recently added automatically ...''". Please cut-and-paste the work entry line so that it is moved to the appropriate position within the works list according to the work ordering adopted on the specific composer page. Then remove the ''<nowiki>{{Recent additions}}</nowiki>'' template. This will remove the page from the list of pages yet to be reviewed, and the text "''The next work entry has been recently added automatically ...''" is not displayed any more.<br />
<br />
If a new edition has been added to an existing work page, you may delete the line after the ''<nowiki>{{Recent additions}}</nowiki>'' template, and amend the already existing work entry so that the multiple editions template ''<nowiki>{{editions|n}}</nowiki>'' is applied. You may wish to assign the correct value of "n" according to the number of editions actually available.<br />
<br />
If the work list on the composer page is automated already (see [[Help:Automating_the_work_list_on_composer_pages|Automating the work list on composer pages]]) the work entry should be already automatically shown at the appropriate position, so you can just delete the line after the ''<nowiki>{{Recent additions}}</nowiki>'' template. Then also remove the ''<nowiki>{{Recent additions}}</nowiki>'' template.<br />
<br />
You can also consider to automate the work list on the composer page if not automated already.<br />
<br />
Composer pages newly created will lack much relevant information (birth and death dates, biography, etc.) You are invited to edit the page, adding any missing data.<br />
<br />
==Step 7: Checking and refining the work page==<br />
<br />
Click on the work title of the newly added (or amended) work entry to open that page. The new edition information should have been automatically added as the first edition in the list. Please correct anything that the automatic process was unable to handle properly.<br />
<br />
[[Category:Help]]</div>
Vaarky
https://www.cpdl.org/wiki/index.php?title=Help:Automated_add_score_process&diff=979761
Help:Automated add score process
2019-05-22T10:05:23Z
<p>Vaarky: add link to CPDL user forums and tell people it's a separate login /* Introduction */</p>
<hr />
<div>==Introduction==<br />
The new, automated add score process, introduced in October 2013, is intended to simplify the process of adding a new score edition to ChoralWiki, especially for those users who are unfamiliar with adding and editing wiki code inside composer and work pages. Using this process, the composer and the work pages are automatically created or updated, without the user being required to do it manually.<br />
<br />
Furthermore, this process allows any registered user (not just the administrators) to refine submissions that the automatic process may not have handled perfectly.<br />
<br />
For example, the list of works on some composer pages is ordered alphabetically by title, while on other composer pages works are grouped into "sacred" and "secular", or into collections. The automatic process cannot accommodate all these alternatives, so it simply places a new work entry at the first place on the list. Users sufficiently familiar with wiki editing should then move the new work entry to the appropriate position on the page.<br />
<br />
Similarly, if a new edition of an existing work is added, a "multiple editions available" label should be added or updated.<br />
<br />
All registered users who are sufficiently familiar with editing wiki pages are encouraged to help refine composer pages and work pages created/amended automatically.<br />
<br />
Please contact the administrators through the [https://forums.cpdl.org CPDL user forums] for any problems or suggestions. Note: the forum does not use the same account as on the main cpdl.org site, so it requires creating an account specificalliy for the forums if you haven't already done so.<br />
<br />
==Step 1: Locating the composer page==<br />
<br />
Click on ''[[:Category:Composers|Composer pages]]'' in the navigation list on the left of the screen, then on the first letter of the composer's surname. If the composer name does not appear on the list, a new composer page will need to be created. To do it, just go to any existing composer page and click on the "Add new work" tab on the top-right part of the page. Then, in the "Add new work" form, replace the "Composer name" and the "Composer's time period" with the name and time period of the new composer. Then go to step 2.<br />
<br />
If the composer already appears in the list of composers, open the composer page and check if the same work is listed already. If it is, click on the work title and go to step 3. Otherwise, click on the "Add new work" tab at the top right of the page. This will open the "Add new work" form, with the "Composer name" and the "Composer's time period" fields already filled in. Now go to step 2.<br />
<br />
==Step 2: Adding a new work==<br />
<br />
Fill in the other fields of the form down to the "Files Section" (excluded) with the relevant information. See the [[Help:Score_submission_guide#Adding_new_edition_information|Score submission guide - Adding new edition information]] for details. Then go to step 4.<br />
<br />
==Step 3: Adding a new edition==<br />
Click on the "Add new edition" tab on the top-right part of the page. This will open the "Add new work" form where some fields (work title, composer name, work genre/subgenre, composer's time period) are filled automatically with the information present already in the work page. Make any manual changes necessary, for example, to voicing.<br />
<br />
==Step 4: Uploading files or entering links to externally hosted files==<br />
If you wish your files (pdf, midi, mp3, etc.) to be stored on the CPDL servers, you will need to upload them. Click on the "Upload now" buttons present on the "Add new work" form. This will open a file upload window that you can use to upload files. See [[Help:Score_submission_guide#Uploading_files|Score submission guide - Uploading files]] for details. The system will try to automatically detect the file types and fill in the appropriate fields of the "Add new work" form accordingly. Please check the data entered, and update them if necessary. You can close the file upload window(s) after all files are uploaded.<br />
<br />
If your files are already stored on external servers, we recommend that you upload them to CPDL anyway, in order to avoid eventual broken links. But if you prefer not to, then please enter the relevant links (full URL beginning with ''http://'') and the applicable details (file type, size, page size, number of pages, etc.).<br />
<br />
==Step 5: Completing and submitting the "Add new work" form==<br />
<br />
Please fill in the remaining fields of the "Add new work" form (notes about the edition, copyright, external web links, your email address - see [[Help:Score_submission_guide#Adding_new_edition_information|Score submission guide - Adding new edition information]] for details) and click on the "Add works data" button at the bottom of the form. The composer page, newly created or amended, according to the work/edition added, will be shown to you in a new window after a few seconds. The "Add new work" form remains open if you need to check any data on it. You can close it if you don't need it any more.<br />
<br />
You will also receive an email summarizing your submission. You can retain a copy of it for your records.<br />
<br />
Contributors who are not familiar with editing wiki pages may stop at this point. All users who are familiar with editing wiki pages are encouraged to perform the next steps also for the contributions of other users.<br />
<br />
==Step 6: Checking and refining the composer page==<br />
<br />
Composer pages created or amended automatically are traced through the category ''[[:Category:Pages_with_recent_additions|Pages with recent additions]]''. Work entries yet to be reviewed and refined are clearly identified on the composer page by a text in italics that reads "''The next work entry has been recently added automatically ...''". Please cut-and-paste the work entry line so that it is moved to the appropriate position within the works list according to the work ordering adopted on the specific composer page. Then remove the ''<nowiki>{{Recent additions}}</nowiki>'' template. This will remove the page from the list of pages yet to be reviewed, and the text "''The next work entry has been recently added automatically ...''" is not displayed any more.<br />
<br />
If a new edition has been added to an existing work page, you may delete the line after the ''<nowiki>{{Recent additions}}</nowiki>'' template, and amend the already existing work entry so that the multiple editions template ''<nowiki>{{editions|n}}</nowiki>'' is applied. You may wish to assign the correct value of "n" according to the number of editions actually available.<br />
<br />
If the work list on the composer page is automated already (see [[Help:Automating_the_work_list_on_composer_pages|Automating the work list on composer pages]]) the work entry should be already automatically shown at the appropriate position, so you can just delete the line after the ''<nowiki>{{Recent additions}}</nowiki>'' template. Then also remove the ''<nowiki>{{Recent additions}}</nowiki>'' template.<br />
<br />
You can also consider to automate the work list on the composer page if not automated already.<br />
<br />
Composer pages newly created will lack much relevant information (birth and death dates, biography, etc.) You are invited to edit the page, adding any missing data.<br />
<br />
==Step 7: Checking and refining the work page==<br />
<br />
Click on the work title of the newly added (or amended) work entry to open that page. The new edition information should have been automatically added as the first edition in the list. Please correct anything that the automatic process was unable to handle properly.<br />
<br />
[[Category:Help]]</div>
Vaarky
https://www.cpdl.org/wiki/index.php?title=A_Hymn_for_St_Cecilia_(Charles_H._Giffen)&diff=914087
A Hymn for St Cecilia (Charles H. Giffen)
2018-10-06T03:05:52Z
<p>Vaarky: adding apostrophe for "in heaven's long delight" /* Original text and translations */</p>
<hr />
<div><br />
'''To the Choral Public Domain Library, in praise of singing''' &nbsp; [[Image:St-Cecilia.jpg]]<br />
==Music files==<br />
{{#Legend:}}<br />
===Full score===<br />
<br />
*{{PostedDate|2018-09-26}} {{CPDLno|51371}} [[Media:Giffen-Hymn_for_St_Cecilia-letter.pdf|{{pdf}}]] [[Media:Giffen-Hymn_for_St_Cecilia-224kbps.mp3|{{mp3}}]] <br />
{{Editor|Charles H. Giffen|2018-09-26}}{{ScoreInfo|Letter|34|484}}{{Copy|Creative Commons Attribution Non-Commercial Share Alike}}<br />
:'''Edition notes:''' This is a letter-size version of the full score. Instrumental parts and a larger (tabloid-size) conductor's score are also available. Performance time is about 8.5 minutes.<br />
<br />
===Instrumental parts===<br />
<br />
*{{PostedDate|2018-10-01}} {{CPDLno|51405}} [[Media:Giffen-Hymn_for_St_Cecilia-harp.pdf|{{pdf}}]]<br />
{{Editor|Charles H. Giffen|2018-10-01}}{{ScoreInfo|Ledger|4|145}}{{Copy|Creative Commons Attribution Non-Commercial Share Alike}}<br />
:'''Edition notes:''' Harp part.<br />
<br />
*{{PostedDate|2018-10-01}} {{CPDLno|51406}} [[Media:Giffen-Hymn_for_St_Cecilia-winds.pdf|{{pdf}}]]<br />
{{Editor|Charles H. Giffen|2018-10-01}}{{ScoreInfo|Letter|15|550}}{{Copy|Creative Commons Attribution Non-Commercial Share Alike}}<br />
:'''Edition notes:''' Wind parts: Flute, English horn, Bassoon, Horn in F, Trombone.<br />
<br />
*{{PostedDate|2018-10-01}} {{CPDLno|51407}} [[Media:Giffen-Hymn_for_St_Cecilia-srrings.pdf|{{pdf}}]]<br />
{{Editor|Charles H. Giffen|2018-10-01}}{{ScoreInfo|Letter|15|551}}{{Copy|Creative Commons Attribution Non-Commercial Share Alike}}<br />
:'''Edition notes:''' String parts: Violin I, Violin II, Viola, Violoncello, Double Bass.<br />
<br />
==General Information==<br />
'''Title:''' ''A Hymn for St Cecilia''<br><br />
{{Composer|Charles H. Giffen}}<br />
{{Lyricist|Ursula Vaughan Williams| (1911-2007)}}<br />
<br />
{{Voicing|4|SATB}}<br><br />
{{Genre|Sacred|Anthems}}<br />
{{Language|English}}<br />
{{Instruments|Chamber orchestra| (flute, English horn, bassoon, horn in F, trombone, harp, and strings)}}<br />
{{Published|2018}}<br />
<br />
'''Description:''' This is an anthem setting of the poem 'A Hymn for St Cecilia' by Ursula Vaughan Williams, for mixed choir and chamber orchestra. It dedicated to the Choral Public Domain Library, as CPDL approaches the 20th anniversary of its founding (in December 1998) by Rafael Ornes, with much appreciation by the composer for all that CPDL has done for choirs and choruses, making thousands upon thousands of choral scores available for free download.<br />
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The music itself is an elaboration of the composer's hymn on the same text ({{NoComp|Sing for the morning's joy, Cecilia, sing|Charles H. Giffen}} to the tune "Gloucester Crescent" which was composed in 2017 explicitly for the Ursula Vaughan Williams text. The harp is an organic part of the accompaniment.<br />
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'''External websites:''' <br />
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==Original text and translations==<br />
{{Text|English|<br />
Sing for the morning’s joy, Cecilia, sing,<br />
in words of youth and phrases of the spring.<br />
Walk the bright colonnades by fountains spray<br />
and sing as sunlight fills the waking day.<br />
Till angels, voyaging in upper air,<br />
pause on a wing, and gather the clear sound<br />
into celestial joy, wound and unwound,<br />
a silver chain or golden as your hair.<br />
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Sing for your loves of heaven and of earth,<br />
in words of music, and each word a truth,<br />
marriage of heart and longings that aspire, <br />
a bond of roses and a ring of fire.<br />
Your summertime grows short and fades away, <br />
terror must gather to a martyr’s death, but never tremble,<br />
the last indrawn breath remembers music as an echo may.<br />
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Through the cold aftermath of centuries<br />
Cecilia’s music dances in the skies, <br />
lend us a fragment of the immortal air<br />
where with your choiring angels we may share.<br />
A light to light us through time-fettered night,<br />
water of life, a rose of paradise;<br />
so from the earth another song shall rise<br />
to meet your own in heaven's long delight.<br />
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&mdash; by Ursula Vaughan Williams (1911-2007)<br />
Copyright © 1961 by The Vaughan Williams Charitable Trust. Used by permission.<br />
}}<br />
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[[Category:Sheet music]]<br />
[[Category:Modern music]]</div>
Vaarky
https://www.cpdl.org/wiki/index.php?title=Category_talk:Voicing&diff=912957
Category talk:Voicing
2018-09-21T03:27:45Z
<p>Vaarky: dictionary sort using voice order downward? /* Polychoral categories: yikes */</p>
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<div>The voicing category should only contain links to categories which actually contain scores; we don't want to have listings for voicing categories that don't have any scores in them, which will only make the page longer and more complicated.<br />
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I also am changing the sorting rules so that these are a little more logical - S, A, T, B are not sorted alphabetically, and so the sorting under each number of voices is haphazard. Here's a first attempt to re-order the category:<br />
<br />
I'll start with 10 or more voices: first part of the schema, increasing number of voices: 10vv, then 11vv, then 12vv... thus we're still increasing voices one by one from 10 upwards, but now sorted only under the one entry: ~<br />
<nowiki>[[Category:Voicing|~10...</nowiki><br><br />
<nowiki>[[Category:Voicing|~11...</nowiki><br><br />
<nowiki>[[Category:Voicing|~12...</nowiki><br />
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Second part of the schema: list ''all'' of the categories with single choir, then double, triple, finally four or more:<br><br />
<nowiki>[[Category:Voicing|~12,1choir...</nowiki><br><br />
<nowiki>[[Category:Voicing|~12,2choirs...</nowiki><br><br />
<nowiki>[[Category:Voicing|~12,3choirs...</nowiki><br><br />
<nowiki>[[Category:Voicing|~40,4+choirs]]</nowiki><br />
<br />
Third part of the schema: alphabetically an AATB choir would come before a normal SATB choir, I think most people will want the list ordered from high voices down to low voices. So I'm going to use numbers 1, 2, 3, 4 in place of S, A, T, B. So SATB, or 1234, will then sort before AATB, or 2234. Unison or equal voices sort as 0.<br />
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So the first entry in the 10 or more voices will be 10 equal voices:<br><br />
<nowiki>[[Category:Voicing|~10,1choir,0000000000]]</nowiki><br><br />
probably followed next by SSSAATTTBB:<br><br />
<nowiki>[[Category:Voicing|~10,1choir,1112233344]]</nowiki><br />
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--[[User:Pml|Pml]] 17:59:39, 2006-03-15 (PST)<br />
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==Solo vocal vs Choral solo==<br />
We seem to have a hierarchy of solo vocal and Choral solo categories. [[Ave maris stella (Josep Navarro i Solves)]] belongs more logically in the uncreated {{CiteCat|Choral solo STB}} than in {{CiteCat|solo STB}}, doesnt it? [[User:Richard Mix|Richard Mix]] 22:16, 8 January 2010 (UTC)<br />
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== Hyphen in category titles ==<br />
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I just discovered that these voicing categories originally had a hyphen in the title (e.g. [[:Category:2-part choral music]]). The reason for replacing them with a hyphen-less version seems to have been technical (some issue with the way they were handled by the wiki system). Is it possible that this issue is now solved with the upgrade to a newer version of the MediaWiki? If so, what about going back to the original titles? —[[User:Carlos|Carlos]]&nbsp;[{{fullurl:User talk:Carlos}} {{mail}}] 20:54, 23 August 2012 (CDT)<br />
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: I would '''not change''' back to the hyphenated titles, because (1) it would involve changing all the categorizations (okay, I know that can be handled by templates and ReplaceText maneuvers, but that is just making more work); (2) the unhyphenated titles have been around for 5 years, and people are used to them. &ndash; [[User:CHGiffen|Chuck]][[User talk:CHGiffen|<sub><small>'''talk'''</small></sub>]]&nbsp;[[User:Charles H. Giffen|Giffen]][[Charles H. Giffen|<sub>'''♫'''</sub>]] 18:46, 28 August 2012 (CDT)<br />
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::Thanks for your feedback, Chuck. Just one last doubt: on a strictly grammatical basis, is is correct/acceptable to write those titles without a hyphen? —[[User:Carlos|Carlos]]&nbsp;[{{fullurl:User talk:Carlos}} {{mail}}] 19:27, 28 August 2012 (CDT)<br />
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::: Hi Carlos. As far as I know, and from considerable googling various "2-part harmony", "3-part harmonly", etc., it seems that both "2 part harmony" and "2-part harmony" are acceptable. &ndash; [[User:CHGiffen|Chuck]][[User talk:CHGiffen|<sub><small>'''talk'''</small></sub>]]&nbsp;[[User:Charles H. Giffen|Giffen]][[Charles H. Giffen|<sub>'''♫'''</sub>]] 21:23, 28 August 2012 (CDT)<br />
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::::That's fine, thanks! —[[User:Carlos|Carlos]]&nbsp;[{{fullurl:User talk:Carlos}} {{mail}}] 00:18, 29 August 2012 (CDT)<br />
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:::::If you Google recieve, you'll find hits for that too, but that doesn't make it correct. :) I think I remember that it is grammatically incorrect to omit the hyphen in one-part music (since one-part modifies music), but no hyphen should be used in "music in one part" (where "one part" does not modify something that follows). I am traveling and won't have access to my stylebook for about 2 weeks, but can check what it says after I get home. I've asked a copy editor friend if they can cite the relevant Stylebook excerpt in the meanwhile. --[[User:Vaarky|Vaarky]] ([[User talk:Vaarky|talk]]) 04:28, 7 September 2012 (CDT)<br />
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::::::Compound adjectives take a hyphen, as in "that was a well-written essay" - pretty standard grammar rule. My students don't usually omit the hyphen twice. :) [[User:Jkelecom|Jkelecom]] ([[User talk:Jkelecom|talk]]) 01:00, 11 September 2012 (CDT)<br />
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{{reply|by=[[User:CHGiffen|Chuck]][[User talk:CHGiffen|<sub><small>'''talk'''</small></sub>]]&nbsp;[[User:Charles H. Giffen|Giffen]][[Charles H. Giffen|<sub>'''♫'''</sub>]] 11:41, 11 September 2012 (CDT)|color=y|text=<br />
I've added the proper hyphens everywhere, in line with preferred style conventions.<br />
}}<br />
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== How fine to slice... ==<br />
<br />
In [http://www.cpdl.org/wiki/index.php?title=Christ_our_paschal_lamb_(John_Sheppard)&oldid=474007 a cleanup note] Vaarky suggested creating [[:Category:TTBarB]]. It seems to me there is a tradeoff of nuance for simplicity, and another problem is that we don't even have definitions of the existing SATB ranges: anyone seeking SAA repertory would want to be sure to check SSA as well, and having to worry about MMM, SMA, MMA, MAA, SMM… as well makes life harder instead of easier, unless we can come up with a different search for women's voices. [[User:Richard Mix|Richard Mix]] ([[User talk:Richard Mix|talk]]) 22:57, 11 October 2014 (UTC)<br />
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== Category renaming ==<br />
<br />
Not knowing whether I've miscapitalized or put words in the wrong order to produce a redlink has occasioned a lot of cursing at the computer at my end, and on Chuck's Talkpage I've proposed renaming the pages at [[:Category:Solo vocal music]]. Besides applying [[Help:Style conventions|CPDL capitalization conventions]] we seem to agree that [[:Category:Soprano solo]] is the most elegant target for the present [[:Category:Solo Soprano]] and this would also harmonize with the word order convention at [[:Category:Choral solo music]]. Since this might annoy those who are now used to the way things are and involves a lot of find-replace work, I'd like to invite comments before proceeding!<br />
<br />
Btw, I hope at some point 'Choral solo music' will get reconsidered; it's a fuzzy concept to me: the multi-category searches "SATB + Solo SATB" and "SATB + Choral soli SATB" should be describing the same thing but give quite different results. [[User:Richard Mix|Richard Mix]] ([[User talk:Richard Mix|talk]]) 04:53, 24 June 2015 (UTC)<br />
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:Hi, Richard. Regarding the {{CC|Choral solo music}} categories, I fully agree with you; I never quite understood the difference between a choral soloist and a soloist proper. Perhaps the intention with {{CC|Solo vocal music}} was to set apart works for solo voice not accompanied by a choir, such as {{CC|Lieder}} and {{CC|Art songs}}, but this distinction was never really enforced.<br />
:As for the capitalization issue: the {{CT|Solo}} template cited by me on Chuck's talk page can handle this for us, too, if desired. Hence, 'Soprano solo', 'Solo Soprano' or 'Solo soprano' would all be acceptable formats. But again, I'm not opposed to renaming the categories, either. Just trying to avoid the extra work involved ;)<br />
:For multiple voices, what would be better in your opinion: 'SATB solo', 'SATB soli' or 'SATB quartet'? —[[User:Carlos|Carlos]] [[File:Email.gif|link=User talk:Carlos]] 14:35, 24 June 2015 (UTC)<br />
::Less work sounds very good! I'd vote for "soli" so we don't have to make trio vs terzetto decisions (and are they in fact a quartet as in ''Missa solemnis'' or 4 soloists as in ''Messiah''?). It's maybe still a question whether to spell out voice types: 1|S (without "solo") seemed intuitive to {{CC|S|many contributors}}, but I like the way "Soprano" (Mezzosoprano, Contralto) emphasizes the traditional 3 fold classification of solo voice types. I guess it's better not to try distinguishing SMABar soli from MCtTBar soli though! [[User:Richard Mix|Richard Mix]] ([[User talk:Richard Mix|talk]]) 20:42, 24 June 2015 (UTC)<br />
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:::I'd like to bring up one other aspect, regarding the impression "Solo Soprano" versus "Soprano solo" create in users who think more casually (or not at all) about CPDL schema: "Solo Soprano" implies a work for lone soprano, while "Soprano solo" sounds as though a soprano solo is included within a choral work. It's the issue of "Solo vocal vs Choral solo" raised higher up on this page. [[User:Vaarky|Vaarky]] ([[User talk:Vaarky|talk]]) 07:35, 8 July 2015 (UTC)<br />
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::::I have to question how many users might think solo sop. and sop. solo are non-interchangeable (and whether they then agree on which is which). Isn't it better to use existing terminology than cpdl-specific coinages? I could be wrong, but "choral solo" is not something I recall in any other context. What it seems to mean is "choir with soloists" i.e. neither SATB nor Solo vv, but a category that doesn't yet exist for the combined forces. [[User:Richard Mix|Richard Mix]] ([[User talk:Richard Mix|talk]]) 19:22, 8 July 2015 (UTC)<br />
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:::::I defer to others on this. I think the distinction will make a difference in very few cases. [[User:Vaarky|Vaarky]] ([[User talk:Vaarky|talk]]) 19:45, 8 July 2015 (UTC)<br />
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== Polychoral categories: yikes ==<br />
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I've noticed that {{CC|SATB.SSATB}} sorts differently than {{CC|SSATB.SATB}} and that the bigger choir is listed first about half the time. Also inexplicable is why we have {{CC|ATTB.SSST}} but {{CC|SSST.ATBB}}. Shall I just leave {{CC|SSST.ATTB}} as is? [[User:Richard Mix|Richard Mix]] ([[User talk:Richard Mix|talk]]) 20:27, 3 September 2018 (UTC)<br />
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:This is worth posting in forums.cpdl.org so others have a higher chance of seeing your excellent question. Perhaps there is a way to define equivalents systemically and merge the results (the way symlinks work under Unix)? [[User:Vaarky|Vaarky]] ([[User talk:Vaarky|talk]]) 01:14, 4 September 2018 (UTC)<br />
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::Hi Richard, what about creating a few general rules to cover these situations? We could define that choirs be sorted by size, from biggest to smallest; and for those that are the same size, by vocal range, from higher to lower. That way, we'd have just {{CC|SSATB.SATB}}; and {{CC|ATTB.SSST}} would become {{CC|SSST.ATTB}}. —[[User:Carlos|Carlos]] [[User talk:Carlos|(talk)]] 15:44, 20 September 2018 (UTC)<br />
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:::I like this idea, but we should sort from fewest voices upward. People are more likely to have forces for satb.satb.satb than for SATBarBx8. [[User:Vaarky|Vaarky]] ([[User talk:Vaarky|talk]]) 16:57, 20 September 2018 (UTC)<br />
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::::If I understand Vaarky (and I might not), that concern is with sorting order ("upward" meaning fewest vv. at "top" of a list?) and doesn't affect the question of whether SATB.SSATB should be deprecated in favor of SSATB.SATB. Bigger first seems one of two workable conventions, but there might be questions about whether SSTBBB.SAATTB has the higher choir on the left or the right. [[User:Richard Mix|Richard Mix]] ([[User talk:Richard Mix|talk]]) 02:09, 21 September 2018 (UTC)<br />
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:::::I meant comment #2 in this thread to convey that I support deduping; sorry I wasn't clear (I did get wires cross in my comment #4). For SSTBBB.SAATTB vs SAATTB.SSTBBB, I'd like to see lexicographical (dictionary sort) in which S comes first, A, then T, then Bar, then B, such that a word starting with SS always comes before same-length a word starting with SA. If sorting this way, I'm thinking putting the shorter "word" on the left up to the dot makes more sense instead of the word with more letters, but I'm not sure. [[User:Vaarky|Vaarky]] ([[User talk:Vaarky|talk]]) 03:27, 21 September 2018 (UTC)</div>
Vaarky
https://www.cpdl.org/wiki/index.php?title=Category_talk:Voicing&diff=912923
Category talk:Voicing
2018-09-20T16:57:37Z
<p>Vaarky: sort fewest voices upward /* Polychoral categories: yikes */</p>
<hr />
<div>The voicing category should only contain links to categories which actually contain scores; we don't want to have listings for voicing categories that don't have any scores in them, which will only make the page longer and more complicated.<br />
<br />
I also am changing the sorting rules so that these are a little more logical - S, A, T, B are not sorted alphabetically, and so the sorting under each number of voices is haphazard. Here's a first attempt to re-order the category:<br />
<br />
I'll start with 10 or more voices: first part of the schema, increasing number of voices: 10vv, then 11vv, then 12vv... thus we're still increasing voices one by one from 10 upwards, but now sorted only under the one entry: ~<br />
<nowiki>[[Category:Voicing|~10...</nowiki><br><br />
<nowiki>[[Category:Voicing|~11...</nowiki><br><br />
<nowiki>[[Category:Voicing|~12...</nowiki><br />
<br />
Second part of the schema: list ''all'' of the categories with single choir, then double, triple, finally four or more:<br><br />
<nowiki>[[Category:Voicing|~12,1choir...</nowiki><br><br />
<nowiki>[[Category:Voicing|~12,2choirs...</nowiki><br><br />
<nowiki>[[Category:Voicing|~12,3choirs...</nowiki><br><br />
<nowiki>[[Category:Voicing|~40,4+choirs]]</nowiki><br />
<br />
Third part of the schema: alphabetically an AATB choir would come before a normal SATB choir, I think most people will want the list ordered from high voices down to low voices. So I'm going to use numbers 1, 2, 3, 4 in place of S, A, T, B. So SATB, or 1234, will then sort before AATB, or 2234. Unison or equal voices sort as 0.<br />
<br />
So the first entry in the 10 or more voices will be 10 equal voices:<br><br />
<nowiki>[[Category:Voicing|~10,1choir,0000000000]]</nowiki><br><br />
probably followed next by SSSAATTTBB:<br><br />
<nowiki>[[Category:Voicing|~10,1choir,1112233344]]</nowiki><br />
<br />
--[[User:Pml|Pml]] 17:59:39, 2006-03-15 (PST)<br />
<br />
==Solo vocal vs Choral solo==<br />
We seem to have a hierarchy of solo vocal and Choral solo categories. [[Ave maris stella (Josep Navarro i Solves)]] belongs more logically in the uncreated {{CiteCat|Choral solo STB}} than in {{CiteCat|solo STB}}, doesnt it? [[User:Richard Mix|Richard Mix]] 22:16, 8 January 2010 (UTC)<br />
<br />
== Hyphen in category titles ==<br />
<br />
I just discovered that these voicing categories originally had a hyphen in the title (e.g. [[:Category:2-part choral music]]). The reason for replacing them with a hyphen-less version seems to have been technical (some issue with the way they were handled by the wiki system). Is it possible that this issue is now solved with the upgrade to a newer version of the MediaWiki? If so, what about going back to the original titles? —[[User:Carlos|Carlos]]&nbsp;[{{fullurl:User talk:Carlos}} {{mail}}] 20:54, 23 August 2012 (CDT)<br />
<br />
: I would '''not change''' back to the hyphenated titles, because (1) it would involve changing all the categorizations (okay, I know that can be handled by templates and ReplaceText maneuvers, but that is just making more work); (2) the unhyphenated titles have been around for 5 years, and people are used to them. &ndash; [[User:CHGiffen|Chuck]][[User talk:CHGiffen|<sub><small>'''talk'''</small></sub>]]&nbsp;[[User:Charles H. Giffen|Giffen]][[Charles H. Giffen|<sub>'''♫'''</sub>]] 18:46, 28 August 2012 (CDT)<br />
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::Thanks for your feedback, Chuck. Just one last doubt: on a strictly grammatical basis, is is correct/acceptable to write those titles without a hyphen? —[[User:Carlos|Carlos]]&nbsp;[{{fullurl:User talk:Carlos}} {{mail}}] 19:27, 28 August 2012 (CDT)<br />
<br />
::: Hi Carlos. As far as I know, and from considerable googling various "2-part harmony", "3-part harmonly", etc., it seems that both "2 part harmony" and "2-part harmony" are acceptable. &ndash; [[User:CHGiffen|Chuck]][[User talk:CHGiffen|<sub><small>'''talk'''</small></sub>]]&nbsp;[[User:Charles H. Giffen|Giffen]][[Charles H. Giffen|<sub>'''♫'''</sub>]] 21:23, 28 August 2012 (CDT)<br />
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::::That's fine, thanks! —[[User:Carlos|Carlos]]&nbsp;[{{fullurl:User talk:Carlos}} {{mail}}] 00:18, 29 August 2012 (CDT)<br />
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:::::If you Google recieve, you'll find hits for that too, but that doesn't make it correct. :) I think I remember that it is grammatically incorrect to omit the hyphen in one-part music (since one-part modifies music), but no hyphen should be used in "music in one part" (where "one part" does not modify something that follows). I am traveling and won't have access to my stylebook for about 2 weeks, but can check what it says after I get home. I've asked a copy editor friend if they can cite the relevant Stylebook excerpt in the meanwhile. --[[User:Vaarky|Vaarky]] ([[User talk:Vaarky|talk]]) 04:28, 7 September 2012 (CDT)<br />
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::::::Compound adjectives take a hyphen, as in "that was a well-written essay" - pretty standard grammar rule. My students don't usually omit the hyphen twice. :) [[User:Jkelecom|Jkelecom]] ([[User talk:Jkelecom|talk]]) 01:00, 11 September 2012 (CDT)<br />
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{{reply|by=[[User:CHGiffen|Chuck]][[User talk:CHGiffen|<sub><small>'''talk'''</small></sub>]]&nbsp;[[User:Charles H. Giffen|Giffen]][[Charles H. Giffen|<sub>'''♫'''</sub>]] 11:41, 11 September 2012 (CDT)|color=y|text=<br />
I've added the proper hyphens everywhere, in line with preferred style conventions.<br />
}}<br />
<br />
== How fine to slice... ==<br />
<br />
In [http://www.cpdl.org/wiki/index.php?title=Christ_our_paschal_lamb_(John_Sheppard)&oldid=474007 a cleanup note] Vaarky suggested creating [[:Category:TTBarB]]. It seems to me there is a tradeoff of nuance for simplicity, and another problem is that we don't even have definitions of the existing SATB ranges: anyone seeking SAA repertory would want to be sure to check SSA as well, and having to worry about MMM, SMA, MMA, MAA, SMM… as well makes life harder instead of easier, unless we can come up with a different search for women's voices. [[User:Richard Mix|Richard Mix]] ([[User talk:Richard Mix|talk]]) 22:57, 11 October 2014 (UTC)<br />
<br />
== Category renaming ==<br />
<br />
Not knowing whether I've miscapitalized or put words in the wrong order to produce a redlink has occasioned a lot of cursing at the computer at my end, and on Chuck's Talkpage I've proposed renaming the pages at [[:Category:Solo vocal music]]. Besides applying [[Help:Style conventions|CPDL capitalization conventions]] we seem to agree that [[:Category:Soprano solo]] is the most elegant target for the present [[:Category:Solo Soprano]] and this would also harmonize with the word order convention at [[:Category:Choral solo music]]. Since this might annoy those who are now used to the way things are and involves a lot of find-replace work, I'd like to invite comments before proceeding!<br />
<br />
Btw, I hope at some point 'Choral solo music' will get reconsidered; it's a fuzzy concept to me: the multi-category searches "SATB + Solo SATB" and "SATB + Choral soli SATB" should be describing the same thing but give quite different results. [[User:Richard Mix|Richard Mix]] ([[User talk:Richard Mix|talk]]) 04:53, 24 June 2015 (UTC)<br />
<br />
:Hi, Richard. Regarding the {{CC|Choral solo music}} categories, I fully agree with you; I never quite understood the difference between a choral soloist and a soloist proper. Perhaps the intention with {{CC|Solo vocal music}} was to set apart works for solo voice not accompanied by a choir, such as {{CC|Lieder}} and {{CC|Art songs}}, but this distinction was never really enforced.<br />
:As for the capitalization issue: the {{CT|Solo}} template cited by me on Chuck's talk page can handle this for us, too, if desired. Hence, 'Soprano solo', 'Solo Soprano' or 'Solo soprano' would all be acceptable formats. But again, I'm not opposed to renaming the categories, either. Just trying to avoid the extra work involved ;)<br />
:For multiple voices, what would be better in your opinion: 'SATB solo', 'SATB soli' or 'SATB quartet'? —[[User:Carlos|Carlos]] [[File:Email.gif|link=User talk:Carlos]] 14:35, 24 June 2015 (UTC)<br />
::Less work sounds very good! I'd vote for "soli" so we don't have to make trio vs terzetto decisions (and are they in fact a quartet as in ''Missa solemnis'' or 4 soloists as in ''Messiah''?). It's maybe still a question whether to spell out voice types: 1|S (without "solo") seemed intuitive to {{CC|S|many contributors}}, but I like the way "Soprano" (Mezzosoprano, Contralto) emphasizes the traditional 3 fold classification of solo voice types. I guess it's better not to try distinguishing SMABar soli from MCtTBar soli though! [[User:Richard Mix|Richard Mix]] ([[User talk:Richard Mix|talk]]) 20:42, 24 June 2015 (UTC)<br />
<br />
:::I'd like to bring up one other aspect, regarding the impression "Solo Soprano" versus "Soprano solo" create in users who think more casually (or not at all) about CPDL schema: "Solo Soprano" implies a work for lone soprano, while "Soprano solo" sounds as though a soprano solo is included within a choral work. It's the issue of "Solo vocal vs Choral solo" raised higher up on this page. [[User:Vaarky|Vaarky]] ([[User talk:Vaarky|talk]]) 07:35, 8 July 2015 (UTC)<br />
<br />
::::I have to question how many users might think solo sop. and sop. solo are non-interchangeable (and whether they then agree on which is which). Isn't it better to use existing terminology than cpdl-specific coinages? I could be wrong, but "choral solo" is not something I recall in any other context. What it seems to mean is "choir with soloists" i.e. neither SATB nor Solo vv, but a category that doesn't yet exist for the combined forces. [[User:Richard Mix|Richard Mix]] ([[User talk:Richard Mix|talk]]) 19:22, 8 July 2015 (UTC)<br />
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:::::I defer to others on this. I think the distinction will make a difference in very few cases. [[User:Vaarky|Vaarky]] ([[User talk:Vaarky|talk]]) 19:45, 8 July 2015 (UTC)<br />
<br />
== Polychoral categories: yikes ==<br />
<br />
I've noticed that {{CC|SATB.SSATB}} sorts differently than {{CC|SSATB.SATB}} and that the bigger choir is listed first about half the time. Also inexplicable is why we have {{CC|ATTB.SSST}} but {{CC|SSST.ATBB}}. Shall I just leave {{CC|SSST.ATTB}} as is? [[User:Richard Mix|Richard Mix]] ([[User talk:Richard Mix|talk]]) 20:27, 3 September 2018 (UTC)<br />
<br />
:This is worth posting in forums.cpdl.org so others have a higher chance of seeing your excellent question. Perhaps there is a way to define equivalents systemically and merge the results (the way symlinks work under Unix)? [[User:Vaarky|Vaarky]] ([[User talk:Vaarky|talk]]) 01:14, 4 September 2018 (UTC)<br />
<br />
::Hi Richard, what about creating a few general rules to cover these situations? We could define that choirs be sorted by size, from biggest to smallest; and for those that are the same size, by vocal range, from higher to lower. That way, we'd have just {{CC|SSATB.SATB}}; and {{CC|ATTB.SSST}} would become {{CC|SSST.ATTB}}. —[[User:Carlos|Carlos]] [[User talk:Carlos|(talk)]] 15:44, 20 September 2018 (UTC)<br />
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:::I like this idea, but we should sort from fewest voices upward. People are more likely to have forces for satb.satb.satb than for SATBarBx8. [[User:Vaarky|Vaarky]] ([[User talk:Vaarky|talk]]) 16:57, 20 September 2018 (UTC)</div>
Vaarky
https://www.cpdl.org/wiki/index.php?title=Category_talk:Voicing&diff=911337
Category talk:Voicing
2018-09-04T01:15:02Z
<p>Vaarky: reply to Richard /* Polychoral categories: yikes */</p>
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<div>The voicing category should only contain links to categories which actually contain scores; we don't want to have listings for voicing categories that don't have any scores in them, which will only make the page longer and more complicated.<br />
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I also am changing the sorting rules so that these are a little more logical - S, A, T, B are not sorted alphabetically, and so the sorting under each number of voices is haphazard. Here's a first attempt to re-order the category:<br />
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I'll start with 10 or more voices: first part of the schema, increasing number of voices: 10vv, then 11vv, then 12vv... thus we're still increasing voices one by one from 10 upwards, but now sorted only under the one entry: ~<br />
<nowiki>[[Category:Voicing|~10...</nowiki><br><br />
<nowiki>[[Category:Voicing|~11...</nowiki><br><br />
<nowiki>[[Category:Voicing|~12...</nowiki><br />
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Second part of the schema: list ''all'' of the categories with single choir, then double, triple, finally four or more:<br><br />
<nowiki>[[Category:Voicing|~12,1choir...</nowiki><br><br />
<nowiki>[[Category:Voicing|~12,2choirs...</nowiki><br><br />
<nowiki>[[Category:Voicing|~12,3choirs...</nowiki><br><br />
<nowiki>[[Category:Voicing|~40,4+choirs]]</nowiki><br />
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Third part of the schema: alphabetically an AATB choir would come before a normal SATB choir, I think most people will want the list ordered from high voices down to low voices. So I'm going to use numbers 1, 2, 3, 4 in place of S, A, T, B. So SATB, or 1234, will then sort before AATB, or 2234. Unison or equal voices sort as 0.<br />
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So the first entry in the 10 or more voices will be 10 equal voices:<br><br />
<nowiki>[[Category:Voicing|~10,1choir,0000000000]]</nowiki><br><br />
probably followed next by SSSAATTTBB:<br><br />
<nowiki>[[Category:Voicing|~10,1choir,1112233344]]</nowiki><br />
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--[[User:Pml|Pml]] 17:59:39, 2006-03-15 (PST)<br />
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==Solo vocal vs Choral solo==<br />
We seem to have a hierarchy of solo vocal and Choral solo categories. [[Ave maris stella (Josep Navarro i Solves)]] belongs more logically in the uncreated {{CiteCat|Choral solo STB}} than in {{CiteCat|solo STB}}, doesnt it? [[User:Richard Mix|Richard Mix]] 22:16, 8 January 2010 (UTC)<br />
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== Hyphen in category titles ==<br />
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I just discovered that these voicing categories originally had a hyphen in the title (e.g. [[:Category:2-part choral music]]). The reason for replacing them with a hyphen-less version seems to have been technical (some issue with the way they were handled by the wiki system). Is it possible that this issue is now solved with the upgrade to a newer version of the MediaWiki? If so, what about going back to the original titles? —[[User:Carlos|Carlos]]&nbsp;[{{fullurl:User talk:Carlos}} {{mail}}] 20:54, 23 August 2012 (CDT)<br />
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: I would '''not change''' back to the hyphenated titles, because (1) it would involve changing all the categorizations (okay, I know that can be handled by templates and ReplaceText maneuvers, but that is just making more work); (2) the unhyphenated titles have been around for 5 years, and people are used to them. &ndash; [[User:CHGiffen|Chuck]][[User talk:CHGiffen|<sub><small>'''talk'''</small></sub>]]&nbsp;[[User:Charles H. Giffen|Giffen]][[Charles H. Giffen|<sub>'''♫'''</sub>]] 18:46, 28 August 2012 (CDT)<br />
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::Thanks for your feedback, Chuck. Just one last doubt: on a strictly grammatical basis, is is correct/acceptable to write those titles without a hyphen? —[[User:Carlos|Carlos]]&nbsp;[{{fullurl:User talk:Carlos}} {{mail}}] 19:27, 28 August 2012 (CDT)<br />
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::: Hi Carlos. As far as I know, and from considerable googling various "2-part harmony", "3-part harmonly", etc., it seems that both "2 part harmony" and "2-part harmony" are acceptable. &ndash; [[User:CHGiffen|Chuck]][[User talk:CHGiffen|<sub><small>'''talk'''</small></sub>]]&nbsp;[[User:Charles H. Giffen|Giffen]][[Charles H. Giffen|<sub>'''♫'''</sub>]] 21:23, 28 August 2012 (CDT)<br />
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::::That's fine, thanks! —[[User:Carlos|Carlos]]&nbsp;[{{fullurl:User talk:Carlos}} {{mail}}] 00:18, 29 August 2012 (CDT)<br />
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:::::If you Google recieve, you'll find hits for that too, but that doesn't make it correct. :) I think I remember that it is grammatically incorrect to omit the hyphen in one-part music (since one-part modifies music), but no hyphen should be used in "music in one part" (where "one part" does not modify something that follows). I am traveling and won't have access to my stylebook for about 2 weeks, but can check what it says after I get home. I've asked a copy editor friend if they can cite the relevant Stylebook excerpt in the meanwhile. --[[User:Vaarky|Vaarky]] ([[User talk:Vaarky|talk]]) 04:28, 7 September 2012 (CDT)<br />
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::::::Compound adjectives take a hyphen, as in "that was a well-written essay" - pretty standard grammar rule. My students don't usually omit the hyphen twice. :) [[User:Jkelecom|Jkelecom]] ([[User talk:Jkelecom|talk]]) 01:00, 11 September 2012 (CDT)<br />
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I've added the proper hyphens everywhere, in line with preferred style conventions.<br />
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== How fine to slice... ==<br />
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In [http://www.cpdl.org/wiki/index.php?title=Christ_our_paschal_lamb_(John_Sheppard)&oldid=474007 a cleanup note] Vaarky suggested creating [[:Category:TTBarB]]. It seems to me there is a tradeoff of nuance for simplicity, and another problem is that we don't even have definitions of the existing SATB ranges: anyone seeking SAA repertory would want to be sure to check SSA as well, and having to worry about MMM, SMA, MMA, MAA, SMM… as well makes life harder instead of easier, unless we can come up with a different search for women's voices. [[User:Richard Mix|Richard Mix]] ([[User talk:Richard Mix|talk]]) 22:57, 11 October 2014 (UTC)<br />
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== Category renaming ==<br />
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Not knowing whether I've miscapitalized or put words in the wrong order to produce a redlink has occasioned a lot of cursing at the computer at my end, and on Chuck's Talkpage I've proposed renaming the pages at [[:Category:Solo vocal music]]. Besides applying [[Help:Style conventions|CPDL capitalization conventions]] we seem to agree that [[:Category:Soprano solo]] is the most elegant target for the present [[:Category:Solo Soprano]] and this would also harmonize with the word order convention at [[:Category:Choral solo music]]. Since this might annoy those who are now used to the way things are and involves a lot of find-replace work, I'd like to invite comments before proceeding!<br />
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Btw, I hope at some point 'Choral solo music' will get reconsidered; it's a fuzzy concept to me: the multi-category searches "SATB + Solo SATB" and "SATB + Choral soli SATB" should be describing the same thing but give quite different results. [[User:Richard Mix|Richard Mix]] ([[User talk:Richard Mix|talk]]) 04:53, 24 June 2015 (UTC)<br />
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:Hi, Richard. Regarding the {{CC|Choral solo music}} categories, I fully agree with you; I never quite understood the difference between a choral soloist and a soloist proper. Perhaps the intention with {{CC|Solo vocal music}} was to set apart works for solo voice not accompanied by a choir, such as {{CC|Lieder}} and {{CC|Art songs}}, but this distinction was never really enforced.<br />
:As for the capitalization issue: the {{CT|Solo}} template cited by me on Chuck's talk page can handle this for us, too, if desired. Hence, 'Soprano solo', 'Solo Soprano' or 'Solo soprano' would all be acceptable formats. But again, I'm not opposed to renaming the categories, either. Just trying to avoid the extra work involved ;)<br />
:For multiple voices, what would be better in your opinion: 'SATB solo', 'SATB soli' or 'SATB quartet'? —[[User:Carlos|Carlos]] [[File:Email.gif|link=User talk:Carlos]] 14:35, 24 June 2015 (UTC)<br />
::Less work sounds very good! I'd vote for "soli" so we don't have to make trio vs terzetto decisions (and are they in fact a quartet as in ''Missa solemnis'' or 4 soloists as in ''Messiah''?). It's maybe still a question whether to spell out voice types: 1|S (without "solo") seemed intuitive to {{CC|S|many contributors}}, but I like the way "Soprano" (Mezzosoprano, Contralto) emphasizes the traditional 3 fold classification of solo voice types. I guess it's better not to try distinguishing SMABar soli from MCtTBar soli though! [[User:Richard Mix|Richard Mix]] ([[User talk:Richard Mix|talk]]) 20:42, 24 June 2015 (UTC)<br />
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:::I'd like to bring up one other aspect, regarding the impression "Solo Soprano" versus "Soprano solo" create in users who think more casually (or not at all) about CPDL schema: "Solo Soprano" implies a work for lone soprano, while "Soprano solo" sounds as though a soprano solo is included within a choral work. It's the issue of "Solo vocal vs Choral solo" raised higher up on this page. [[User:Vaarky|Vaarky]] ([[User talk:Vaarky|talk]]) 07:35, 8 July 2015 (UTC)<br />
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::::I have to question how many users might think solo sop. and sop. solo are non-interchangeable (and whether they then agree on which is which). Isn't it better to use existing terminology than cpdl-specific coinages? I could be wrong, but "choral solo" is not something I recall in any other context. What it seems to mean is "choir with soloists" i.e. neither SATB nor Solo vv, but a category that doesn't yet exist for the combined forces. [[User:Richard Mix|Richard Mix]] ([[User talk:Richard Mix|talk]]) 19:22, 8 July 2015 (UTC)<br />
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:::::I defer to others on this. I think the distinction will make a difference in very few cases. [[User:Vaarky|Vaarky]] ([[User talk:Vaarky|talk]]) 19:45, 8 July 2015 (UTC)<br />
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== Polychoral categories: yikes ==<br />
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I've noticed that {{CC|SATB.SSATB}} sorts differently than {{CC|SSATB.SATB}} and that the bigger choir is listed first about half the time. Also inexplicable is why we have {{CC|ATTB.SSST}} but {{CC|SSST.ATBB}}. Shall I just leave {{CC|SSST.AATTB}} as is? [[User:Richard Mix|Richard Mix]] ([[User talk:Richard Mix|talk]]) 20:27, 3 September 2018 (UTC)<br />
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: This is worth posting in forums.cpdl.org so others have a higher chance of seeing your excellent question. Perhaps there is a way to define equivalents systemically and merge the results (the way symlinks work under Unix)? [[User:Vaarky|Vaarky]] ([[User talk:Vaarky|talk]]) 01:14, 4 September 2018 (UTC)</div>
Vaarky
https://www.cpdl.org/wiki/index.php?title=Talk:Cipriano_de_Rore&diff=910990
Talk:Cipriano de Rore
2018-09-01T19:36:28Z
<p>Vaarky: fix formatting</p>
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<div>I intensely dislike the organization of this page. Separating the works within the categories of Sacred and Secular music by the number of voices of the works makes finding a piece of which you only know the title more tedious, than as if all the sacred and secular pieces were put together - as was the case before Barry Johnston reorganised the page.<br />
Since only a small number of Rore's works are available on CPDL (and anyway, he was nowhere near as prolific as Lassus or Palestrina), the present organisation is entirely unnecessary (and rather annoying).<br />
Could not we have it back as it was before Barry Johnston's intervention?<br />
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:Is this what you wanted? – [http://www.cpdl.org/wiki/index.php/User:Bcjohnston523 Barry Johnston] ([http://www.cpdl.org/wiki/index.php/User_Talk:Bcjohnston523 talk]) 14:35, 1 September 2018 (UTC)<br />
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::{{Reply|by=[[User:Vaarky|Vaarky]] 19:33, 1 September 2018 (UTC)|text=<br />
Some related thoughts:<br />
* The main thing is to retain the ability for novice users to add new editions and entirely new scores using the AUTOMATIC addscore feature without needing to fiddle with it manually.<br />
* That said, it's easy to find a particular title using command-F or the Windows equivalent in a situation where it's subdivided, but I don't have strong feelings either way.<br />
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Vaarky
https://www.cpdl.org/wiki/index.php?title=Talk:Cipriano_de_Rore&diff=910989
Talk:Cipriano de Rore
2018-09-01T19:34:23Z
<p>Vaarky: need to retain ability ability to add scores automatically</p>
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<div>I intensely dislike the organization of this page. Separating the works within the categories of Sacred and Secular music by the number of voices of the works makes finding a piece of which you only know the title more tedious, than as if all the sacred and secular pieces were put together - as was the case before Barry Johnston reorganised the page.<br />
Since only a small number of Rore's works are available on CPDL (and anyway, he was nowhere near as prolific as Lassus or Palestrina), the present organisation is entirely unnecessary (and rather annoying).<br />
Could not we have it back as it was before Barry Johnston's intervention?<br />
[[User:Imruska|Imruska]] ([[User talk:Imruska|talk]]) 10:28, 1 September 2018 (UTC)<br />
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:Is this what you wanted? – [http://www.cpdl.org/wiki/index.php/User:Bcjohnston523 Barry Johnston] ([http://www.cpdl.org/wiki/index.php/User_Talk:Bcjohnston523 talk]) 14:35, 1 September 2018 (UTC)<br />
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Some related thoughts:<br />
* The main thing is to retain the ability for novice users to add new editions and entirely new scores using the AUTOMATIC addscore feature without needing to fiddle with it manually.<br />
* That said, it's easy to find a particular title using command-F or the Windows equivalent in a situation where it's subdivided, but I don't have strong feelings either way.<br />
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Vaarky
https://www.cpdl.org/wiki/index.php?title=User_talk:Vaarky&diff=910982
User talk:Vaarky
2018-09-01T19:06:36Z
<p>Vaarky: reply to Richard about hardcopy scores</p>
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== Notes to Self ==<br />
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== Privacy policy ==<br />
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Hi Vaarky! I saw your interest in page [[ChoralWiki:Privacy_policy]]. In fact, looking at the logs I saw that this page was created by a spammer on 27 December 2007 and deleted by [[User:Bobnotts|Robert]] on the same day; it was recreated 4 days later by the spammer and this time blanked by Robert. So it has never held any information of value, that's why I deleted it. If you wish to work on this page even so, the easiest way would be to copy for instante the text from http://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/Privacy_policy and make the appropriate changes. Thanks —[[User:Carlos|Carlos]]&nbsp;[[File:Email.gif|link=User_talk:Carlos]] 16:07, 27 July 2008 (PDT)<br />
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:Thanks for the information. That's the same place I was thinking of starting. Will try to get you folks a draft soon. --[[User:Vaarky|Vaarky]] 17:08, 27 July 2008 (PDT)<br />
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== NULLRequests ==<br />
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Hi Vaarky, I made the changes you suggested to those two Request pages, but after they were moved, their talk pages became inaccessible, so I am replying to you here instead. —[[User:Carlos|Carlos]]&nbsp;[[File:Email.gif|link=User_talk:Carlos]] 12:18, 29 August 2008 (PDT)<br />
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: Thanks, Carlos. --[[User:Vaarky|Vaarky]] 09:14, 30 August 2008 (PDT)<br />
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:: Does this mean any time you move a page, all the Talk discussion associated with it is lost? If so, is there a way to fix that? I will minimize moving things unless I hear otherwise. --[[User:Vaarky|Vaarky]] 02:12, 6 September 2008 (PDT)<br />
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:::No Vaarky, the problem was only with the Requests talk pages, that were inaccessible because of a server misconfiguration that has already been solved ([[ChoralWiki:Operation_and_implementation_issues#Changes_to_the_Requests:_namespace|see here]]). Usually when you move a page there is an option (checked by default) to also move the talk page, if it exists. —[[User:Carlos|Carlos]]&nbsp;[[File:Email.gif|link=User_talk:Carlos]] 03:13, 6 September 2008 (PDT)<br />
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== Rod Mather ==<br />
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Hi Vaarky!<br />
When editing Rod Mather links, please replace the old links by <br />
*<tt><nowiki>[{{website|Rod Mather}} {{net}}] PDF and MIDI files.</nowiki></tt><br />
instead of<br />
*<tt><nowiki>[{{website|Rod_Mather}} {{extpdf}}] [{{website|Rod_Mather}} {{extmid}}] .<br></nowiki></tt><br />
Note that the underscore can be used interchangeably with the space character.<br>Thanks! —[[User:Carlos|Carlos]]&nbsp;[[File:Email.gif|link=User_talk:Carlos]] 04:42, 15 October 2008 (UTC)<br />
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{{Reply|by=[[User:Vaarky|Vaarky]] 04:46, 15 October 2008 (UTC)|text=<br />
I defined the variable with the underscore in it, and apparently space and underscore are not interchangeable in that context. I'll just change the variable to Mather (redoing the pages) and punt on the question of underscore versus space.<br />
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:You were right, in this context the character used surprisingly does make a difference! In other templates, I've been using both characters with no problem, but the parameter is used to form links; in this case it's used as a test inside the <nowiki>{{switch}}</nowiki> function; that probably explains it all. Thanks_again! :) —[[User:Carlos|Carlos]]&nbsp;[[File:Email.gif|link=User_talk:Carlos]] 05:21, 15 October 2008 (UTC)<br />
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That's why I work hard to avoid spaces in variables--it can lead to complications if nested or not escaped properly.<br />
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== Link to [[Psalm]] ==<br />
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Hi Vaarky. In [http://choralwiki.net/wiki/index.php?title=Alleluja_(Ambrosian_chant)&curid=7728&diff=121328&oldid=102226 this edit] you added a link to [[Psalm]]... did you mean to add a link to a particular Psalm page? I'm afraid I don't know what you were trying to do otherwise I would put it right. --[[User:Bobnotts|Bobnotts]] <small>[[User talk:Bobnotts|'''talk''']]</small> 21:04, 20 October 2008 (UTC)<br />
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:It links to multiple verses, a link to each of which can be found on the Psalm page. What's the best way to link in such a scenario? --[[User:Vaarky|Vaarky]] 22:52, 20 October 2008 (UTC)<br />
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:: These have to be treated "by hand" ... I've fixed the links (and corrected the wrong citation for one of the three Psalms in the score). -- [[User:CHGiffen|Chuck]][[User talk:CHGiffen|<sub><small>'''talk'''</small></sub>]]&nbsp;[[User:Charles H. Giffen|Giffen]][[Charles H. Giffen|<sub>'''♫'''</sub>]] 02:04, 21 October 2008 (UTC)<br />
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== Mundy ==<br />
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Hi Vaarky!<br />
You did a nice reworking on the Mundy page. I would only suggest that in such situations you try to use a lot the 'Preview' button until you come up with a satisfactory result, and only then click on Save. That's what I usually do and it works fine for me. If you use Firefox, there's no risk of loosing your additions by a power failure or whatever, because it keeps the page history even in these situations. And if you don't like a change you've just previewed, you can always click on the back button and return to a previous stage. Regards, —[[User:Carlos|Carlos]] [[File:Email.gif|link=User_talk:Carlos]] 15:10, 20 November 2008 (UTC)<br />
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Hi, Carlos--thanks for the feedback. I am a habitual document saver and did not realize that I wouldn't actually be losing my edits in Firefox. Very useful to know.<br />
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== Deleting score page disambigs ==<br />
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Hi Vaarky. I notice you've been deleting these since we agreed they were too much to handle for every composer, and I support this. I wonder, though, if you agree that it would be a good idea to check what information is on the disambiguation page and add that to the appropriate score pages? [http://www.cpdl.org/wiki/index.php?title=Special:Undelete&target=Ave_Maria_(Josquin_des_Prez)&timestamp=20090115025729&diff=prev This disambiguation page] details 3 score pages on CPDL by Josquin using the text Ave Maria, but not all of those pages link to each other. I think it's a good idea for us to include a link to other settings of the same text as the work on a given score page so that users can quickly go to those other settings if the page they've arrived at isn't the one they wanted. This would work rather like the Wikipedia system of "This article is about the American basketball player. Did you mean the [[Example basketball player (British)|British]] one?" I generally think this text should appear right at the top of the page like on [[Alma Redemptoris Mater a 5 (Tomás Luis de Victoria)|this page]] and [[Alma Redemptoris Mater a 8 (Tomás Luis de Victoria)|this page]]. Do you agree? --[[User:Bobnotts|Bobnotts]] <small>[[User talk:Bobnotts|'''talk''']]</small> 22:55, 24 February 2009 (UTC)<br />
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I agree that it is good to include that type of notice on the score info page. However, mentioning the exact number could convey incomplete info with the illusion that it's complete if, say, a fourth different Ave Maria setting by Josquin turns up on CPDL and we say there are exactly three. <br />
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So I think it would be even better to leave the count as "more than one" and also reference the composer page, such as"<br />
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"Note: CPDL has more than one setting of Alma Redemptoris Mater by Tomás Luis de Victoria. For the setting for double choir, SATB.SATB, click here. To check if there are other settings, please see the composer page for Tomas Luis de Victoria."<br />
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:: At some point, I thought we had agreed that 3 or more works with the same title by a composer merited a disambiguation page. Did this change? And, if so, when? It is not so difficult to establish and maintain these disambiguation pages if there are some agreed upon standards: when one sees a composer page with at least the minimum number of works with the same title, then a disambiguation page is created. What's the problem? -- [[User:CHGiffen|Chuck]][[User talk:CHGiffen|<sub><small>'''talk'''</small></sub>]]&nbsp;[[User:Charles H. Giffen|Giffen]][[Charles H. Giffen|<sub>'''♫'''</sub>]] 04:59, 25 February 2009 (UTC)<br />
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Here's some of the recent discussion about it:<br />
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== José Uruñuela ==<br />
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Hi Vaarky, thanks for revising his biography, the text is looking great now! :) —[[User:Carlos|Carlos]]&nbsp;[{{fullurl:User talk:Carlos}} {{mail}}] 05:24, 12 May 2009 (UTC)<br />
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:Glad to help if I can. -- [[User:Vaarky|Vaarky]] 05:28, 12 May 2009 (UTC)<br />
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== Text categories ==<br />
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Hi Vaarky, it's my understanding that people searching in [[:Category:Icelandic texts]] are looking for pages that really contain texts in Icelandic. If they want to find works in Icelandic (with or without text included) they will search inside [[:Category:Works in Icelandic]] (where [[Lofsöngur (Helgi Helgason)|Lofsöngur]] is already categorized). What do you think? —[[User:Carlos|Carlos]]&nbsp;[{{fullurl:User talk:Carlos}} {{mail}}] 04:41, 20 June 2009 (UTC)<br />
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Thanks for taking a look. I will remove the Textx category and add the Works category for that page.<br />
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== Douglas Leedy compositions ==<br />
Hello,<br />
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I am Douglas Leedy's publisher (MaterialPress.com) and engraved the score of Dido's Lament from his ms.. Leedy asked to put online here as I cannot handle the colume of choral publications. You do not need to correct the "ng" (in "mang- na") in the text, as he wishes a classical pronuncitation (not a renaissance as one supposes for Willaert) which requires the "ng" sound on the written "g" before an "n". Leedy is a scholar of classical pronunciation so I would defer to him in this case, above and beyond his instructions in the score.<br />
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He has since made some changes in the score which I will soon incorporate in a new version here.<br />
--[[User:DJWOLF|DJWOLF]] 04:31, 04 July 2009 (UTC)<br />
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{{Reply|by=[[User:Vaarky|Vaarky]] 15:43, 9 July 2009 (UTC)|text=<br />
Thank you very much for clearing that up, and welcome to CPDL. I'll make a note on the discussion page for the piece as well, in case anyone has questions in the future and doesn't check this talk page.<br />
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== Included/excluded ==<br />
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(relocating this from my user page to my talk page)<br />
In [http://www.cpdl.org/wiki/index.php?title=ChoralWiki:CPDL_statistics&curid=12186&diff=212835&oldid=212207 this edit], does 'incl.' mean 'included'? In fact, we have 673 requested score pages plus 471 completed, more than a thousand in total. I wish you the best for holidays, if any (I leave tomorrow). [[User:Claude T|Claude]] 18:12, 9 July 2009 (UTC)<br />
:Thanks for the catch. Already fixed. -- [[User:Vaarky|Vaarky]] 02:35, 10 July 2009 (UTC)<br />
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== Thank you =) and a suggestion ==<br />
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Thank you so much for the reply...(about adopting Bach's page and how to respond a score request) <br />
I think this kind of guides should be posted in a help page...because, like in my case, I want to do much things here but I don't have a clue on how things are done, I suppose there are others who feel the same but are more shy to ask for help... =)<br />
I also suggest adding a help section explaining what are templates...and other names which seem weird to some persons.<br />
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I also noted that some special pages are translated to other languages...but not Spanish...I know there is a huge amount of potential users who don't use the site because they don't speak a word of English...I live in Argentina and where I live there is a lot of choral activity...many of the conductors I know have this problem I mentioned. I suggest the site but they can't use it... If what you need is just a Spanish speaking volunteer, count on me!...thank you again...[[User:Saniakob|Saniakob]] 06:13, 10 July 2009 (UTC)<br />
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:Thanks for the suggestions. I'll look into integrating it into the help system. Thanks also for your interest in helping with Spanish translations. Carlos has just recently posted some information about this on your talk page, and it looks like you've already started working on it. Appreciate your help! -- [[User:Vaarky|Vaarky]] 06:03, 11 July 2009 (UTC)<br />
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== Hi, Vaarky ==<br />
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Thanks for your recent post on my talk page. I've just started this summer contributing to CPDL and have effectively taught myself quickly to read mensural notation in order to transcribe from source. I'm currently working on music from the Dow partbooks (MSS 984-988, copied by Robert Dow in the years 1581-1588), which reside in the library of my (now recent!) alma mater, Christ Church, Oxford, where I was the Organ Scholar to the Cathedral there, and reading for a music degree, over the past 3 years (I left this summer and am off to Westminster Cathedral to be Organ Scholar there).<br />
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The stuff in these partbooks is great to work from, not least since it's in beautiful script - very clear and with very, very few textual errors. Moreover, the music within is superb. There's a lot of stuff in more authoritative sources (i.e. Tallis and Byrd, especially in their prints), but there's an equal amount of stuff that survives only in single source i.e. this one! It's this stuff that I'm largely concentrating on at the moment, but I've included a number of other multi-source pieces just to get them onto CPDL where noone has done so before.<br />
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Composers I'm dealing with/have dealt with at the moment include: Byrd, Tallis, Tye, Mundy, Parsons, White (inc. Portio mea, which I gather is a favourite of yours!), Tailer, Strogers and even the continental composers Ferrabosco I (although a later resident in England) and Lassus.<br />
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I'm a big fan of Renaissance polyphony, as you can imagine(!), helped by my education and background (see my user page). As a Catholic, I find the English stuff most interesting, particularly the pieces that disguise (if at all) texts concerning the Babylonian captivity and the plight of Catholicism in England (Byrd's Ne irascaris, Quomodo cantabimus and Tallis' Lamentations and Derelinquit impius etc.).<br />
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During my time in Oxford, I set up an 8-voice vocal consort with the choral scholars and lay-clerks at Christ Church, and we put on a concert of Byrd, Tallis, Sheppard, Biebl (Ave Maria!) and Take 6 transcriptions! We were determined not to be another crappy barbershop group, so we combined the awesomeness of the English Renaissance with the awesomeness of Take 6 arrangements (which I had to transcribe when I should really have been working...).<br />
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With the same group at the end of last term, we got together a load of Franco-Flemish polyphony by composers we'd either never heard of or heard of and not sung. In 4 hours in an overheated squash court (we needed a venue with an acoustic, and everywhere else was booked up!) we got through Machaut, Dufay, Binchois, Busnoys, Ockeghem, Josquin, Isaac, Obrecht, Brumel, Richafort, Verdelot, Willaert, Arcadelt, Clemens non Papa, De Rore, Vaet and Regnart. Terrific stuff, and often overlooked by those pesky Teutonic historiographers under the umbrella title of 'Palestrina'...!<br />
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Thus, to answer your question about my favourite pieces of polyphony, I'd have to go with the following (in no particular order):<br />
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*Byrd - Ave regina caelorum (a5) (unpublished and potentially spurious, but confirmed as authentic in the past decade) and Ne irascaris (both parts)<br />
*Tallis - Lamentations (at original pitch, please!)<br />
*Verdelot - Si bona suscepimus (Morales wrote a great parody Mass on this great motet)<br />
*Obrecht - Salve regina (a4) and Missa Je ne demande (a parody of Busnoys' chanson)<br />
*Brumel - Lamentations<br />
*De Rore - Infelix ego<br />
*Willaert - Missa Christus resurgens (a parody of Richafort's motet)<br />
*Isaac - Missa De Beata Virgine (a6)<br />
*r (Lhéritier) - Surrexit pastor bonus<br />
*Ferrabosco I - Lamentations<br />
*Victoria - Requiem<br />
*Clemens non Papa - Ego flos campi (don't we love it!)<br />
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Hope this is of use! A prize if you can find legal, public-domain editions of all of these, because I certainly can't (apart from only 5 of the pieces listed above).<br />
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Also, I studied Classics at school, and thus have a working knowledge of Latin and Greek. Throw any translation requests my way if you're stuck yourself. Although the majority of Latin translations can be gleaned from cross-referencing with e.g. Biblical references and works from other writers, it's always nice to know that there are a number of elusive texts out there that need the necessary treatment!<br />
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Best,<br />
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[[User:Edward Tambling|Edward Tambling]] 11:50, 13 August 2009 (UTC)<br />
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{{Reply|by=[[User:Vaarky|Vaarky]] 02:11, 17 August 2009 (UTC)|text=<br />
Glad I asked, thanks. Many of these are pieces I have not yet encountered. I will see if I can track them down, and I am looking forward to getting acquainted.<br />
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I appreciate and am eagerly looking forward to your work on editions from the Dow partbooks, especially the pieces that survived only in that source. Thank you for sharing with CPDL!<br />
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{|cellpadding=0 cellspacing=2 border="1"<br />
|-<br />
|<font color=green>Yes, CPDL</font><br />
|Brumel<br />
|Lamentations<br />
|-<br />
|<font color=red>No, but my local lib has it</font><br />
|Byrd<br />
|Ave regina caelorum (a5) (unpublished and potentially spurious, but confirmed as authentic in the past decade)<br />
|-<br />
|<font color=green>Yes, CPDL</font><br />
|Byrd<br />
|Ne irascaris (both parts)<br />
|-<br />
|<font color=green>Yes, CPDL</font><br />
|Clemens non Papa<br />
|Ego flos campi<br />
|-<br />
|<font color=red>No</font><br />
|Ferrabosco I<br />
|Lamentations<br />
|-<br />
|<font color=red>No</font><br />
|Isaac<br />
|Missa De Beata Virgine (a6)<br />
|-<br />
|<font color=green>Yes, free elsewhere and also on CPDL</font><br />
|L'Heritier<br />
|Surrexit pastor bonus<br />
|-<br />
|<font color=green>Yes, sang Richard Mix edition not yet on CPDL</font><br />
|Obrecht<br />
|Salve regina (a4)<br />
|-<br />
|<font color=red>No</font><br />
|Obrecht<br />
|Missa Je ne demande (a parody of Busnoys' chanson)<br />
|-<br />
|<font color=red>No</font><br />
|Rore<br />
|Infelix ego<br />
|-<br />
|<font color=green>Yes, CPDL</font><br />
|Tallis<br />
|Lamentations (at original pitch, please!)<br />
|-<br />
|<font color=red>No, but my local library has it</font><br />
|Verdelot<br />
|Si bona suscepimus (Morales wrote a great parody Mass on this great motet)<br />
|-<br />
|<font color=green>Yes, CPDL</font><br />
|Victoria<br />
|Requiem<br />
|-<br />
|<font color=red>No</font><br />
|Willaert<br />
|Missa Christus resurgens (a parody of Richafort's motet)<br />
|}<br />
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Impressive! Actually, the Brumel is on here ([http://www.cpdl.org/wiki/index.php/Lamentations_of_Jeremiah_(Antoine_Brumel) Brumel Lamentations]), and I've only just learnt of the L'Héritier's presence on CPDL as of yesterday.<br />
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Best,<br />
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[[User:Edward Tambling|Edward Tambling]] 13:51, 25 August 2009 (UTC)<br />
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{{Reply|by=[[User:Vaarky|Vaarky]] 15:23, 25 August 2009 (UTC)|text=<br />
I'll update the chart above. The Brumel on CPDL has only 2 verses, 2.8 and 2.11, so I thought it was incomplete -- were other verses not set? Thanks.<br />
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No, there are only two non-consecutive verses of the text (although in a continuous musical setting) set by Brumel. This is the complete set of Lamentations by Brumel. Not the most tortured music, the likes of which we've come to expect from the likes of Tallis, Byrd, J. Mundy, Parsley and Ferrabosco (the elder)!<br />
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{{Reply|by=[[User:Vaarky|Vaarky]] 18:14, 29 August 2009 (UTC)|text=<br />
Thanks very much! I'll make a note on the score page that this is believed to be all that was set by the composer.<br />
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[[User:Edward Tambling|Edward Tambling]] 14:54, 29 August 2009 (UTC)<br />
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I've got the Obrecht SR a 4, if I can only upload it... [[User:Richard Mix|Richard Mix]] 21:17, 24 August 2009 (UTC)<br />
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{{Reply|by=[[User:Vaarky|Vaarky]] 21:40, 24 August 2009 (UTC)|text=<br />
Hi, Richard--very nifty, thanks! Did the link to the discussion in the forums help? I am away 8/25-30, but please post details about teh nature of the snag you are encountering in the forums and someone else should be able to help in the meanwhile. I'll check in when I get back. Thanks again.<br />
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:Wow, the backlog must be down to about zero now! I figured out already that the normal gap between most file upload dates and completed submissions was measured in months, which encouraged me to keep filling out the form. There's a question about whether to merge or split [[Achieved is the Glorious Work (from 'The Creation') (Franz Joseph Haydn)|here]]. [[User:Richard Mix|Richard Mix]] 23:34, 4 October 2009 (UTC)<br />
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== CPDL file format validation project ==<br />
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Hi. Yes, I work on Wikipedia, however, only as an editor. I don't know anything related to the MediaWiki code and this system, so I can't help you. And, sorry, Neither I know someone who works with MediaWiki. However, maybe you could find someone through browsing categories of users on Wikipedia (this [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:MediaWiki_administrators one] could be). I think, this is all how can I help you. Regards, --[[User:Tomaxer|Tomaxer]] 13:32, 24 August 2009 (UTC)<br />
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{{Reply|by=[[User:Vaarky|Vaarky]] 21:41, 24 August 2009 (UTC)|text=<br />
Thanks for the reply and add'l pointers. Will check into this further in early September when I am back to having e-mail access.<br />
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== Nice job! ==<br />
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Hi Vaarky, congratulations, you did very well in your first two additions! Just note that page "User:Username" should redirect to "User:Real Name" while in the talk pages it's the opposite: "User talk:Real Name" redirects to "User talk:Username". Also, to create the page "User:Real Name", just click on the red editor name in a works page, and paste <nowiki>{{subst:user page}}</nowiki> in the page that opens. After that, just save the page and edit it again if you have any more info to add to it. Regards, —[[User:Carlos|Carlos]]&nbsp;[{{fullurl:User talk:Carlos}} {{mail}}] 03:51, 8 September 2009 (UTC)<br />
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:Thanks, Carlos. I'll go make those changes for the user account. One other question: how do you coordinate when multiple people are on the alias? By group replying to the alias indicating which ones you're planning to take? -- [[User:Vaarky|Vaarky]] 03:58, 8 September 2009 (UTC)<br />
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::Hi, Carlos--can you check me on Charles Thompson to make sure I understood right on the user and talk page redirects? Tx. -- [[User:Vaarky|Vaarky]] 16:13, 8 September 2009 (UTC)<br />
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:::Hi Vaarky, the directions were now correct! You just forgot to add "User" to the redirects, and because of that they were pointing to pages in the main namespace instead of in the user namespace. Another tip: when creating/changing redirects or when creating a new short page as the one with <nowiki>{{subst:user page}}</nowiki>, try leaving the edit summary field in blank: an automated summary is created for you! —[[User:Carlos|Carlos]]&nbsp;[{{fullurl:User talk:Carlos}} {{mail}}] 17:32, 8 September 2009 (UTC)<br />
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== [[Missa 'Orbis factor' (Gregorian chant)]] ==<br />
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Hi Vaarky. You put a cleanup note on another page with duplicate score entry to the above so I've merged them. --[[User:Bobnotts|Bobnotts]] <small>[[User talk:Bobnotts|'''talk''']]</small> 14:26, 12 September 2009 (UTC)<br />
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== Edit to Thomas Appleby ==<br />
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Hi Vaarky. In [http://www.cpdl.org/wiki/index.php?title=Thomas_Appleby&diff=next&oldid=224600 this edit], you added a cleanup notice to [[Thomas Appleby]], that a catalogue number needs to be assigned. But to what? The edition we have of his ''Magnificat'' is already catalogued correctly... --[[User:Bobnotts|Bobnotts]] <small>[[User talk:Bobnotts|'''talk''']]</small> 19:10, 28 December 2009 (UTC)<br />
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:My error, now removed. Thanks Rob. -- [[User:Vaarky|Vaarky]] 04:51, 30 December 2009 (UTC)<br />
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== If I was being pedantic... ==<br />
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... I'd revert your recent change of my edition of Tallis' O salutaris hostia from 'motet' back to 'hymn', as it's a hymn to the Blessed Sacrament. However, I'm not that fussed, and it does fit into the category of motet, along with everything else! Well done for spotting it anyway, and it (I'd imagine) is more de rigeur of CPDL to have a consistency across the board. 'Motet' is fine.<br />
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Am having this edition performed tomorrow evening during Vespers and Benediction at Westminster Cathedral - during the elevation of the Blessed Sacrament, naturally!<br />
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--Edward Tambling<br />
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{{Reply|by=[[User:Vaarky|Vaarky]] 00:30, 31 January 2010 (UTC)|text=<br />
Thanks for the note. This subject brought up the issue that CPDL tried to cram liturgical function and musical genre into the same category. I think there is emerging consensus that it's a floor cleaner *and* a dessert topping, and that multiple categories need to appear to cover these areas (in this case, hymn and motet). You might be interested in the discussion at [[Talk:A solis ortus (Gilles Binchois)]]. Your input is welcome and I'm certainly no expert, so we'll be figuring out something that I think will reflect your wanting it to be labeled as a hymn. I think once we understand whether we should have multiple entries within genre for this type of situation, or split this type of content into multiple categories besides genre, we'll go back and apply them across CPDL. Please do contribute your thoughts on the subject!<br />
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And congratulations on the performance of this edition!<br />
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:I've opened up a [http://forums.cpdl.org/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=17&t=4853&p=12833#p12833 topic at the forums] on these issues, which arose from recent discussions on [[Talk:A solis ortus (Gilles Binchois)]]. &ndash; [[User:CHGiffen|Chuck]][[User talk:CHGiffen|<sub><small>'''talk'''</small></sub>]]&nbsp;[[User:Charles H. Giffen|Giffen]][[Charles H. Giffen|<sub>'''♫'''</sub>]] 02:29, 31 January 2010 (UTC)<br />
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== Re: Lassus URL ==<br />
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Hi, Vaarky,<br />
<br />
Thanks for pointing out the wrong link on the page for my edition of Veni in hortum meum. I must have just had the wrong URL on my clipboard when I hit Ctrl+C! The link was actually to another site from which I intend to purchase facsimiles of the Cantiones Sacrae (1575) by Byrd and Tallis. Lucky it was this site and not another, n'est pas? HOW embarrassing!<br />
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I've restored the link and all should be well now - let me know if anything else comes up.<br />
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Best,<br />
<br />
Edward<br />
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== Mergers ==<br />
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Hi Vaarky, when you merge two pages, could you please add a link to the remaining page in the summary, when you delete the superfluous one? (something like ''"see <nowiki>[[</nowiki>Title (Composer)]]"''). This way, in the future if we for some reason find this deleted page, we'll know where its contents have gone into. Thanks! —[[User:Carlos|Carlos]]&nbsp;[{{fullurl:User talk:Carlos}} {{mail}}] 06:04, 17 April 2010 (UTC)<br />
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:Will do in future--tx for alerting me. -- [[User:Vaarky|Vaarky]] 06:06, 17 April 2010 (UTC)<br />
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== Dows and down'ts ==<br />
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Hi, Vaarky,<br />
<br />
Thanks for setting up that page for the Dow Partbooks - I was going to get round to doing that myself, but things are piling up here at the Music Department of Westminster Cathedral...! I'll tweak the page a bit and eventually get round to filling in the rest of the page - I might even put up the instrumental pieces in the back of the books if/when I get round to editing them. I'll also put in another column which will number the pieces as they appear in the books (like the [[Eton Choirbook]] page has), and make that sortable like you've done for the other columns already - that's quite an important aspect of the layout of the collection.<br />
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Of course, it shouldn't matter that the CPDL editions won't necessarily all be from the Dow Partbooks per se (a lot of the Byrd an Tallis is duplicated in their original publications, as edited for CPDL by David Fraser). What the key is is that this page should provide a guideline to the content of the books and the sort of pieces within, the nature of the collection.<br />
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I've recently purchased from [http://www.diamm.ac.uk DIAMM] a set of facsimiles of the Dows, and therefore have not left the house since these arrived! Very tasty indeed, and will help enormously with my transcribing (where I had been using internet images previously). A similar facsimile of the Eton Choirbook is on its way. DROOL.<br />
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Next editions currently in my Dow pipeline - O bone Jesu by [[Robert Parsons]], and the 5-part Lamentations by [[Robert White]]. Time is the only issue now... Must start burning the candle every which way!<br />
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Best,<br />
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[[User:Edward Tambling|Edward Tambling]] 19:47, 23 April 2010 (UTC)<br />
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== Gah! ==<br />
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The inimitable David Fraser has beat me to the first upload of the White Lams a5! Not to worry, as I was nowhere near finishing mine. I've got a bit more to do in terms of text underlay and ficta treatment, and will post a downward transposition for men's voices at any rate. Reading the intro to my Dow facsimiles, there may be a move to make facsimiles of the next-best (i.e. most complete and presentable) partbooks in the UK, namely those Gyffard badboys. More on that story later... As I said, I'll do a bit of a cleanup on the Dows page when I get the chance.<br />
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Best,<br />
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[[User:Edward Tambling|Edward Tambling]] 09:08, 27 April 2010 (UTC)<br />
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== Google translator ==<br />
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Hi Vaarky,<br />
<br />
I noticed that you've been requesting translations for a couple of works with texts in modern languages, and I was wondering if you already know Google translator. It does a quite good job with most modern languages, you should give it a try. See for example how it translates Huub de Lange's [[Salut Reine (Huub de Lange)|Salut Reine]]:<br />
:Hi Queen, Mother of mercy;<br />
:our life, our sweetness and our hope, hello.<br />
:To you we cry, banished children of Eve.<br />
:To you we sigh, mourning and weeping in this valley of tears.<br />
:O you, our advocate, turn your gaze toward us merciful. (i.e. merciful gaze)<br />
:And after this exile, show us Jesus, the blessed fruit of your womb,<br />
:O clement, O loving, O sweet Virgin Mary.<br />
In this case you'd only have to replace Hi/Hello with Hail to get the whole meaning. I know it's not always that perfect, but it's certainly faster than waiting for somebody else's translation :) The link to it is [http://translate.google.pt/?hl=&ie=UTF-8&text=&sl=de&tl=en# here].<br />
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Regards, —[[User:Carlos|Carlos]]&nbsp;[{{fullurl:User talk:Carlos}} {{mail}}] 23:00, 25 June 2010 (UTC)<br />
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{{Reply|by=[[User:Vaarky|Vaarky]] 00:01, 26 June 2010 (UTC)|text=<br />
Hi, Carlos--<br />
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Thanks for your note and suggestion. I'm familiar with a couple of online translation tools. My goal is slightly different...<br />
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I aim to take just a moment in passing to tag the score so anyone familiar with the original language can find which works could use translation at any given moment if they have free time. I do this primarily for Latin, since a friend of mine who is a retired Latin scholar sometimes provides translations for CPDL, esp. for interesting Latin texts that do not come straight out of the Bible which has readily available translations all over the place.<br />
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I think there is value in CPDL offering translations of high quality, rather than automated translation output. For example, you propose leaving "O clement" which is another example of why the automated translation result is not high quality.<br />
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I think there is insufficient value in taking time to manually paste an inferior automated translation that anyone can grab for themselves by using the same automated tools. If we're going to offer low-quality automated translations, let's just put a link to an automated translator on the score description page rather than manually pasting the output for each piece.<br />
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Speaking of which, I've been thinking of asking whether it would be possible to automate putting NoTranslation/English on every score page that has Latin text but doesn't already have this tag. Any idea?<br />
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As always, I'd appreciate your thoughts.<br />
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:Oh, I was not suggesting that the result of online translations were to be pasted into works pages; I just thought you were adding the requests because you planned to sing those works, in which case an automated translation would be able to give you a glimpse of the meaning in a timely manner. By the way, [http://www.tfd.com/clement The Free Dictionary] states that clement is also a synonym of merciful (Google was not totally wrong :)<br />
:With respect to your suggestion, I need to run some tests to know if the same result can be achieved without using the template NoTranslation, by using DPL instead. That would be a lot more practical and faster.<br />
:—[[User:Carlos|Carlos]]&nbsp;[{{fullurl:User talk:Carlos}} {{mail}}] 01:15, 26 June 2010 (UTC)<br />
{{Reply|by=[[User:Vaarky|Vaarky]] 01:27, 26 June 2010 (UTC)|text=<br />
To clarify, I didn't mean that Google was wrong about clement, just that not it reads as an awkward use of English and is not how a high quality translation would put it.<br />
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Thanks for being willing to ponder potential automation regarding translation. It occurs to me that a good approach might be to use DPL to allow users to create a search query that checks on the fly to let them know which pieces could use translation from one specific language into another. It could take the two languages as input from drop-downs chosen by the user, then check if each piece is in X language and does not contain Y language translation. Or is this too demanding on the servers? This avoids bloating pages unnecessarily with tags about which languages could still use translations of that text. It's a more dynamic way to keep up with the addition of new languages or with the unpredictability of knowing which language combinations people will care about besides Latin/English.<br />
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== CPDL #21700 ==<br />
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Vaarky, I'm not sure what you mean by your cleanup notice on [[A Prayer (Karol Mikuli)]]. Could you explain? --[[User:Bobnotts|Bobnotts]] <small>[[User talk:Bobnotts|'''talk''']]</small> 15:06, 27 June 2010 (UTC)<br />
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:Hi, Rob. Thanks for checking. Two separate PDFs were uploaded, in different languages but the same composition (with a note from the contributor in the download logs to pair them). Only one of them got an addscore form and has a CPDL score # assigned. I wasn't sure if they each need a CPDL score # or not. I am guessing they do, but wanted a second opinion. -- [[User:Vaarky|Vaarky]] 16:30, 27 June 2010 (UTC)<br />
::Thanks Vaarky. Yes, they belong on the same page and need separate catalogue numbers. I've sorted it out now, as well as changing the title of the page to the original Polish title. --[[User:Bobnotts|Bobnotts]] <small>[[User talk:Bobnotts|'''talk''']]</small> 17:43, 27 June 2010 (UTC)<br />
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== [[Missa de profundis (Luis de Stoa)]] ==<br />
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Hi Vaarky. Any news on this? --[[User:Bobnotts|Bobnotts]] <small>[[User talk:Bobnotts|'''talk''']]</small> 10:07, 13 February 2011 (CST)<br />
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:Hi, Rob--Thanks for pinging me on this. I did have some correspondence with Luis. I checked my archives, and had updated the page with as much information as I got from Luis as far as I can tell. It would help for someone who can write in Spanish to contact Luis, so I've asked Carlos if might be able to help and sent the prior correspondence. -- [[User:Vaarky|Vaarky]] 10:43, 14 February 2011 (CST)<br />
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== Willaert: Nazaraeus vocabitur ==<br />
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Hi, I see you've added a placeholder for this motet on Willaert's page. Are you editing a score? So am I. I'll be interested to see what you come up with. <br />
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Best,<br />
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[[User:Jmkelly|Jmkelly]] 21:51, 30 March 2011 (CDT)<br />
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{{Reply|by=[[User:Vaarky|Vaarky]] 22:15, 30 March 2011 (CDT)|text=<br />
It's not a score I'm working on. It was just a placeholder (similar to the way I tried to add some known works by [[Obrecht]] to his composer page). I love Willaert and it's great that you're working on an edition. Thanks for your note!<br />
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== Pierkin de Raedt ==<br />
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Ah, yes, a parody Mass on the motet by [[Jean Richafort|Richafort]], I believe. It seems to have been included in the complete Richafort edition by CMM (contents and sample pages available [http://www.corpusmusicae.com/cmm/cmm_samples/cmm081-4spgs.pdf here]), but I don't know anything more about it. Hope this helps! [[User:Edward Tambling|Edward Tambling]] 12:17, 19 June 2011 (CDT)<br />
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:I've recently purchased this edition (though not yet sung it), thanks! -- [[User:Vaarky|Vaarky]] 01:52, 30 September 2011 (CDT)<br />
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== Spem in alium ==<br />
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Dear Vaarky,<br><br />
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I've recently come across a source of (among other things) de Mantua's Spem in alium. I'll prepare it up, and, if time permits, also do the Palestrina Mass which uses the motet as its basis.<br><br />
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With all best wishes,<br><br />
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[[User:Edward Tambling|Edward Tambling]] 14:07, 29 September 2011 (CDT)<br><br />
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:That would be wonderful, thank you! I've sung over 1,000 different Renaissance motets and have been really wishing for this. -- [[User:Vaarky|Vaarky]] 01:54, 30 September 2011 (CDT)<br />
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== Score requests ==<br />
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Hi,<br />
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Do you know if [[ChoralWiki talk:Request a Score|this actually get carried out]] and replaced the given link? I get a bad name special page when testing the request submission link... [[User:Richard Mix|Richard Mix]] ([[User talk:Richard Mix|talk]]) 02:07, 27 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
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{{Reply|by=[[User:Vaarky|Vaarky]] ([[User talk:Vaarky|talk]]) 17:48, 27 December 2013 (UTC)|text=<br />
I am not sure, but I believe that change was not made and that the error you're seeing may be for a different reason. I've posted [http://forums.cpdl.org/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=21&t=6685 here in the forums] to inquire.<br />
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Happy new year!<br />
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== Acknowledgements section ==<br />
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Nice idea! :) —[[User:Carlos|Carlos]] [[File:Email.gif|link=User talk:Carlos]] 14:43, 5 February 2015 (UTC)<br />
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== hard copy catalog ==<br />
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Hi,<br />
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Thought you might like this idea [[User:Richard Mix/Library]]. Do you know any other Bay Area resources I should check against redundacy? [[User:Richard Mix|Richard Mix]] ([[User talk:Richard Mix|talk]]) 23:34, 18 August 2018 (UTC)<br />
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{{Reply|by=[[User:Vaarky|Vaarky]] 11:56, 1 September 2018 (UTC)|text=<br />
Great idea! It would also help to indicate for each how many copies you have total.<br />
I only know of choralarchive.org and mine, plus what works individual ensembles (e.g. Bay Choral Guild, St. Gregory's in SF) happen to have sung.<br />
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I should do similarly for at least some of my editions, but things are hectic. I might create a similar one at some point. Meanwhile, feel free if you like to put a note on that page telling people they may also wish to ask user Vaarky, who typically has 8 sets of sacred Renaissance pieces in Latin, mostly motets.<br />
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Help:What's it all about?
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==What is CPDL?==<br />
The Choral Public Domain Library (CPDL), is an Internet-based free sheet music website which specializes in choral music.<br />
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Begun in December 1998, CPDL is one of the world's largest free sheet music sites. The goal of CPDL is to host a large collection of music scores and other supporting files (such as midi or other sound files) which can be freely downloaded and used. Most of the scores on CPDL are modern editions based on older works whose copyright has lapsed (or which are otherwise in the public domain), but some scores are newly composed and offered for download by the composer.<br />
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The primary goals of CPDL are:<br />
* To make vocal sheet music available for free.<br />
* To create a website for public domain music that includes only legally downloadable scores (we operate under United States law).<br />
* To allow development of a viable collaborative model for sheet music distribution.<br />
* To publish scores that are not otherwise commercially viable.<br />
* To create a website that catalogs a large number of other free sheet music websites.<br />
* To encourage (through the CPDL Bulletin Boards) sharing between lovers of vocal music.<br />
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As well as scores, you can use CPDL to find texts and lyrics, translations, and information about composers - all available for use under a license such as the [[ChoralWiki:CPDL|CPDL license]].<br />
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In August 2005, CPDL was ported to a wiki system. The following page details the transition:<br />
*[[ChoralWiki:CPDL-ChoralWiki]]<br />
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==How long has CPDL been around?==<br />
CPDL has been around since December 1998, when it was first created with a grand total of six scores available for download. It now boasts over 9 thousand individual scores.<br />
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==Who runs the site?==<br />
Until August of 2008, CPDL was managed by Rafael Ornes, but has been transitioned to a new management team to manage CPDL as a 501(c)(3) corporation. CPDL is based in the US, but has board members in other countries as well.<br />
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In addition to this group of individuals, CPDL receives help from a variety of volunteers, some with [[ChoralWiki:Administrators|Administrator]] privileges on the system, and others who help with miscellaneous categorization of works and other tasks without Administrator level access enabled on their accounts.<br />
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Most of the scores and information pages have been contributed by ordinary users. If you spot a mistake or would like to contribute something, you can easily edit any page. In this way, the site is improved gradually by the contributions of many users.<br />
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* [[Help:Contents#How can I contribute?|Find out how to contribute]]<br />
* [{{MediaWiki:Discussions-url}} Visit the CPDL forums] -- where users meet to discuss the site and its contents<br />
* [[ChoralWiki:Volunteers|View the volunteers page]] -- where current and ongoing projects are posted<br />
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==Is it really free?==<br />
Yes, it's really free. CPDL is a volunteer project and is not being done for profit (CPDL is a 501(c)(3) non-profit under US law.) All work on the site is done by volunteers, many of whom are ordinary users like yourself. Currently, CPDL is generously sponsored by donations from individuals and also by our corporate Sponsors and Affiliate(s) listed on the left side of our web pages. There are some costs involved in running the site and donations are very welcome. To make a contribution, click the [[ChoralWiki:Site support|Donations]] link here or in the navigation menu on the left.<br />
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==How many scores are there?==<br />
CPDL indexes over 10,000 different works combining the efforts of over 500 contributors. Take a look at the [[Main Page]] to see newly added editions.<br />
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==Can I make copies for my choir?==<br />
Yes, scores on CPDL are generally available for copying and use by choirs. In most cases there's no restriction on distributing, duplicating, or performing the music indexed here, and some score may allow additional uses as well. Check the specific type of license indicated on the specific edition you wish to use.<br />
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Some important things to note:<br />
* In some cases, the composer may request that you contact him or her if you decide to perform his or her work.<br />
* Some scores which are linked from CPDL, but which actually reside on other affiliated websites, may have further restrictions on use. Check the individual copyright statements on affiliated websites to find out what restrictions apply in each case.<br />
* In some situations, a work may be public domain under the laws of the US but may not yet have lapsed into the public domain under the laws of a user's own country. We recommend that users familiarize themselves with the general copyright laws of their own country.<br />
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==What else can I do with CPDL editions?==<br />
Please check the type of copyright license on any specific edition you wish to use. For editions under the [[ChoralWiki:CPDL|CPDL type of license]], you can also generally make free use of editions hosted on CPDL including to make another edition (for example, transposing the piece); Your new edition must properly credit the original work and be released under the same type of licensing (e.g. the [[ChoralWiki:CPDL|CPDL License]]. Always check the copyright instructions related to the specific score. We encourage posting your new edition if you feel others may benefit from it.<br />
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==Thanks and Acknowledgements==<br />
CPDL would like to thank all the people and organizations who have supported our site.<br />
* The many [[ChoralWiki:CPDL_Editors|editors]] who have contributed their scores for public benefit.<br />
* The volunteers who have made [[Special:Contributions/|edits]] to wiki pages, served as [[Administrators]] or otherwise helped with maintenance of the site, as well as the community members who answered questions (and posted them) in the [http://forums.cpdl.org/phpBB3/ Forums], etc.<br />
* The [[Donations|donors]] who have contributed directly to CPDL, as well as the users who made purchases through our affiliate arrangement with [http://www.sheetmusicplus.com/?aff_id=154015 SheetMusicPlus.com].<br />
* Our corporate Sponsors, past and present: [http://www.cloudhymnal.org Cloudhymnal]; [http://www.mymusicfolders.co MyMusicFolders.com]; [http://www.choralia.net Choralia]; [https://www.singerhood.com/en-GB?from=cpdl Singerhood/The Choral App]; [http://www.choirprodigy.com/ Choir Prodigy]; [https://knowledgerocks.com/ Knowledge Rocks]; [https://www.note-perfect.com/ Note Perfect].<br />
* [http://www.avid.com/sibelius Avid Technology, Inc.], for providing CPDL a Sibelius 7 software license to help with CPDL's format conversion and other tasks in administering editions that site users contributed in Sibelius format only.<br />
* [[Susan_Partlan|Susan Partlan]] and [[User:Charles_H._Giffen|Chuck Giffen]] for their work on the new CPDL [http://www.cpdl.org/wiki/images/2/22/Toplogo1.png logo].<br />
* Our fans on Facebook who have "Liked" our [https://www.facebook.com/CPDL.org Facebook page].<br />
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